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  • Posted By: diamond@truch0768 @ 01/06/2008 10:01:44 PM

    The other candidates show their true character, i.e. lack of character, when they accused Mr. Romney of changing policies. They deceive and lie when they accuse and make character assassinations about Mr. Romney changing positions back and forth several times which is just not true and they very well know it. Mr. Romney did change positions only once on each of these issues when he became aware of additional information that he was not origionally aware of. Of course this is the intelligent and responsible thing to do. Obviously the other candidates are not any better than what the Clinton's are known for. And if they aren't any better than this, they surely are not fit to be in the positions they are in at present, let alone be a President of the United States. Are these the kind of individuals we want for a leader if we know they can only get on another persons level by dragging them down to their level by deception and making false character assassintions? And anyone that does not think Mr. Romney walks the walk as a true Christian has not looked into Mr. Romney's true character and background and have not given him a fair evaluation. It appears and is obvious to me the other candidates have shown their true lack of character in this campaign and obviously don't even begin hold a candle to Mr. Romney's character.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 01/06/2008 9:58:03 PM

    DOES GUILLIANI HAVE A TICK? HIS EYES OPEN REALLY WIDE EVERY SECOND. HITLER USED THE SAME EYE CONTACT TECHNIQUE BUT HE DID IT ON PURPOSE. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME FOR SURE IF THIS IS A TICK OR IF IT IS BEING DONE ON PURPOSE.

    THE INSURANCE COMPANIES RUN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. EVERY CANDATE FEELS THE INSURANCE COMPANIES MUST SUSTAIN THEIR PROFITS. THIS IS WHY NO REPUBLICAN CAN 'FIX HEALTH CARE'. WHEN IT COMES TO DOMESTIC POLICIES LIKE ENERGY, HEALTH CARE, CHILD CARE , MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUTS, OUTSOURCING, THE REPUBLICAN GET 'DWARFED', THE ONLY ISSUE THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE IS TERRORISM. NO ONE AGREES WITH AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY, SO THE REPUBLICANS DO NOT EVEN HAVE LEVERAGE ON THIS ISSUE. MAYBE IF BIN LADEN IS CAPTURED THE REPUBLICANS CAN TWIST THE STORY AND CLAIM THEY INDEED HAVE A SUCCESSFUL FOREIGN POLICY. THIS WOULD LEAD THE TIGHTENING OF CIVIL LIBERITIES IE. PATRIOT ACT. HUCKABEE
    PROVIDED THE BEST ANSWERS. McCAIN ONLY ADVANTAGE IS FOREIGN POLICY WHERE HE DWAFS EVERY CANDIDIATE, REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT. I LIKE RON PAUL'S RESPONSE IN THE DEBATE. HE CLEARLY SHOWED THAT THE CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN ABUSED AND IGNORED.

  • Posted By: acosio @ 01/06/2008 8:30:14 PM

    Why can't any Mormon simply answer the question?
    Is Jesus Christ GOD?
    Is He Lord?
    Yes or no?

    • Posted By: smiles2 @ 01/06/2008 8:46:33 PM

      Jesus Christ is not God, our Heavenly Father. He is a seperate person. He prayed to Heavenly Father in the Garden of Gethamie (I know I spelled it wrong), Jesus asked for the ones putting him on the cross to be forgiven by his Father and ours. Is he Lord? Yes he is our Lord. Everything he did he did he did in the name of our Heavenly Father. He did not want to take any glory from Heavenly Father.

      We are not "Mormans" we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. That name is slang.

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 01/06/2008 9:57:27 PM

        MORMANISM is a cult created by Joe Smith with the direct assistance of the Father of all lies. The HOLY SPIRIT is a person not some hocus-o=pocus energy force. Energy does not grieve, cannot be blasphemed, and cannot comfort or give revelation. Those who blasheme the HOLY SPIRIT will not be forgiven in this life or the life to come. By the way, if the Book of Mormon was translated from hieroglyphics why would they be in the form of Old English(i.e. KING JAMES VERSION). This dialect had not been written or spoken in Joe Smiths time. Pray that you recieve the filling of the SPIRIT-from who all true revelations of GOD come

    • Posted By: statesmanjacqueline @ 01/06/2008 9:11:27 PM

      We believe in God the Eternal Father, in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. (Article of Fatih #1) Jesus Christ is the God of the old Testament, the Lord of the new testament, and has done the will of His Father in all things. Is Jesus Christ a God? YES. But He is also submissive to His Father's will and gives all glory to our Eternal Father in Heaven, Elohim.

    • Posted By: Todji @ 01/06/2008 8:56:05 PM

      No
      God is one being.
      Jesus Christ is one being
      They are seperate and apart in and of themselves each to his self
      Okay. Your simply answer is NO
      member of the Chruch of Jusus Christ of Latter Day Saints [Mormon]

    • Posted By: MedicMaria @ 01/06/2008 8:53:53 PM

      I am a Mormon- Yes! Jesus Christ is God!

    • Posted By: Miss B. @ 01/06/2008 8:44:56 PM

      To acosio: While this question is a bit off topic from the article, I would love to answer it for you. Jesus Christ is my Lord and my Savior. We (Mormons) believe that He is the Son of God. He died to atone for the sins of mankind. We believe that Christ's atonement is the only means by which we can return to God's presence.

    • Posted By: klindera9 @ 01/06/2008 8:41:25 PM

      im not a morman but....no

  • Posted By: ALL_American508 @ 01/06/2008 9:49:54 PM

    The American populous definitely needs 'change' - as the Roman Empire would continue to exist had it not crumbled due to the greed at the top. Obama may 'represent' change, but he continues to believe that invading other countries is something that the American people CONTINUE to want (that is NOT CHANGE). ONLY Ron Paul wants to have a live and let live attitude. We are NOT the police of the world and need to respect and understand that before we are completely penniless and at the mercy of more powerful governments. WAKE UP AMERICA - it's going to be a much softer 'landing' with someone with TRUE INTEGRITY in the White House. RON PAUL is the answer to ALL of our AMERICAN prayers - he is NOT a Republican or Democrat or Libertarian - he is a stand up American willing to lead us through the hard times coming.........soon.

  • Posted By: ALL_American508 @ 01/06/2008 9:48:24 PM

    The American populous definitely needs 'change' - as the Roman Empire would continue to exist had it not crumbled due to the greed at the top. Obama may 'represent' change, but he continues to believe that invading other countries is something that the American people CONTINUE to want (that is NOT CHANGE). ONLY Ron Paul wants to have a live and let live attitude. We are NOT the police of the world and need to respect and understand that before we are completely penniless and at the mercy of more powerful governments. WAKE UP AMERICA - it's going to be a much softer 'landing' with someone with TRUE INTEGRITY in the White House. RON PAUL is the answer to ALL of our AMERICAN prayers - he is NOT a Republican or Democrat or Libertarian - he is a stand up American willing to lead us through the hard times coming.........soon.

  • Posted By: acosio @ 01/06/2008 8:22:39 PM

    Mr. Holland, Is Jesus Christ God incarnate in the flesh? Or is He just the Son of God?
    Yes or No? Aanswer this simple question without all the LDS rhetoric.

    • Posted By: eshuster @ 01/06/2008 9:46:40 PM

      Jesus Christ is who he said he was: He is the son of God, who is not greater than his Father. Jesus said that he knows not the hour but that his Father in Heaven does. Within the Godhead Jesus is God in the flesh and speaks for the Father. Jesus Christ, God the Father, and the Holy Ghost are one in purpose but are NOT one in being. There are FAR more scriptures in the New Testament that demonstrate conclusively the separate nature of the Godhead as opposed to the one being expoused by the Nicene Creed. The one-ness of the three is explained in John 17. We cannot understand the one ness of the three, and therefore we must accept this by faith. Jesus is the son of God, but is God within the Godhead. Let's move beyond this my friend. Jesus did not quiz any of his disciples on doctrine. If they believed he was the son of man then miracles happened. There is no one on the earth who has cornered the interpretation of the Bible. Let's all work together as Christians - why be afraid of a religion who has a different set of Christian beliefs than you do? Be happy and praise God.

  • Posted By: acosio @ 01/06/2008 9:46:16 PM

    The great truth revealed in the New Testament is that the eternal God became one of us; He became a human being.

    And the word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth (John 1:14).

    The Apostle Paul echoes John???s thoughts:

    Who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made himself of no reputation, taking the form of a servant, and coming in the likeness of humanity (Philippians 2:6,7).

    The Incarnation Of Jesus Christ

    God became a human in Jesus Christ. This is known as the ???incarnation.??? Incarnation is from the Latin meaning ???in flesh.??? Although it is not a biblical word it presents a biblical truth. Jesus is the eternal God who became flesh and blood. Jesus became a man at a point in time in history. He did so without giving up His oneness with God. He became a human being without a sin nature. ???In flesh??? means more than Jesus had a physical body ??? He was a complete human personality.
    Jesus Laid Aside His Heavenly Glory

    In becoming a human being Jesus laid aside His heavenly glory to live among us. The question is, why did He do it? The Scriptures give us several reasons why Jesus came to earth.

    1. He Wanted To Further Reveal God To Humanity

    The first and foremost reason was to give a further revelation of God to humanity. If you wish to know what God is like you need go no further than to look at Jesus. The Bible says.

    No one has ever seen God, but God the one and only, who is at the Father???s side, has made him known (John 1:18).

    This verse teaches that Jesus explained God to humanity. We need no longer wonder what God is like; Jesus shows us. Jesus Himself said.

    Jesus answered: ???Don???t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ???Show us the Father??????(John 14:9).

    Jesus Did This By Both Words And Deeds

    Jesus claimed that God guided both his words and deeds.

    Jesus gave them this answer: ???I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, to your amazement he will show him even greater things than these??? (John 5:19,20).

    Jesus said.

    But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father (John 10:38).

    Jesus??? work of reaching out to the vilest of sinners revealed the heart of God the Father. Those who criticized his work among the worst sinners revealed their lack of understanding with God???s desires.
    http://www.newsweek.com/id/84694

  • Posted By: jdelaney60 @ 01/06/2008 9:46:01 PM

    The President is a United Methodist as is the case with Hillary Clinton and John Edwards. Both John McCain and Mike Huckabee are Baptist. Rudy Guliani is a Roman Catholic; Mitt Romney is Mormon; Barack Obama is United Church of Christ and Fred Thompson is affiliated with the Church of Christ.

  • Posted By: NDJim @ 01/06/2008 9:44:15 PM

    I am getting frustrated with these "news" articles. I wasn't able to watch the debate, and I'm finding it nearly impossible to find any news articles that describe any of the issues discussed in the debate. Almost every article I've read has quoted Huckabee and McCain's "zingers" and tried as hard as they can to portray Romney as the negative, attacking, flip-flop candidate, but they can't actually discuss the issues.

    Whenever I try to find information on what Huckabee stands for, it seems all I can find is that his god is better than everyone else's, so we should vote for him. It seems that worked in Iowa, as I saw he credited his victory to God. As someone who isn't a Baptist, that scares me. If he thinks God is putting him in office, how is that going to affect his policy making towards religions that are not his own once he's in office? And what is it, exactly, about his political positions that make him God's choice? What little I've found on his actual political experience makes him seem like the least qualified candidate for the job. Everyone seems so concerned about Romney's religion. Even if Romney's religion is a little weird, at least he???s not making it a political issue, and has made it clear that he won???t serve his religion in office.

    I used to consider myself a Christian conservative, but I have seriously had to rethink that after seeing the Iowa caucus. I find it troubling that there are that many people that would vote for a candidate based solely on his religion. If they are so ignorant as to do so, I really don't want to associate myself with such a group.

    Reading through the comments on this article I've also seen several discussions of what Mormons do and do not believe about God. Are the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit one or three? Are Jesus and the devil brothers? Who cares??? This is a presidential race. Semantics of religious beliefs have no bearing on qualifications as president. For once I would just like to find a story that actually lays out the issues of what the candidates plan to do in office, and not focus on the political side show that doesn't matter.

  • Posted By: simplfive @ 01/06/2008 9:03:53 PM

    all you need to do is get 'hold of a copy of a tape or dvd entitled, "DNA vs The Book of Morman." Mormans or Latter-Day Saints as they like to be called have some serious issues when it comes to explaining their faith.

    • Posted By: Twister52 @ 01/06/2008 9:40:53 PM

      To "simplfive" and any others who choose to hate what they do not understand: I am an actively practicing 42 year old member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I have NO problem talking about ANY facet of my religion at ANY time to ANYONE. Can I "prove" Mormonism by basing my arguments exclusively from the Bible or on science's current level of understanding? Nope. But then again, neither can you prove your specific beliefs (which I assume are of a Christian background or basis) by arguing entirely from the Bible. If you could, everyone who believes in the Bible would belong to your church, right? As far as "science", numerous events occurred that cannot be "proven" by science, such as Moses parting the Red Sea, but yet YOU believe in them, don't you? So, I can't do it but neither can you. BUT.....what I can do is tell you that God has spoken to me on more than one occasion through the Holy Ghost telling me that The Book of Mormon, which testifies (as does the Bible) that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of the world, is indeed God's word. Naturally, you'll say "prove it!" and I say, "Let God prove it." Study it. Be willing to learn things you didn't know before and ask Him in sincerity if the book is true and He'll show you like He showed me. Don't rely on getting all your knowledge from websites. Got to the ULTIMATE source of truth; God. Dan Maloy - Enid, OK

  • Posted By: NCSU2010 @ 01/06/2008 9:39:49 PM

    well rather explanation than testimony but still good none the less

  • Posted By: NCSU2010 @ 01/06/2008 9:36:15 PM

    Thank you Dale65, You've put it as good as anyone else in any testimony meeting I've ever been in. That was a great Testimony.

  • Posted By: Dale65 @ 01/06/2008 9:29:32 PM

    This is getting way off base of political discussion, but to answer your question about whether God left heaven and placed himself into a earthly shell. Jesus (the man) spirit was sent from heaven by God (thus the son of God) and made god's power/presence manifested upon the earth in earthly form. God remained in Heaven, this is to whom Jesus prayed to in the Garden of Gethsemane "when he asked that the cup be taken from him, but not "his", but "thine" will be done, and whom God said as Jesus was baptized, "Behold this is my beloved son, who I am well pleased". There..., no LDS rhetoric just the plain knowledge of a Baptist raised, who after 25 years converted to the LDS faith whose eye is but to the glory of God, and his perfect son Jesus the Christ. That said, I believe faith and religion is a "personal" choice and acts as a guides in matters of character, and morals. I have to admit that I do look at a person's faith, but not a certain christian church (Yes, I will vote only for someone of christian faith, that is important to me). That said I will probability still vote for Fred Thompson, after all i'm looking at a political candidate for President who shares my views of government, not a spiritual leader. Finally, either way you vote may God continue to bless this nation, the leaders, and it's people.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 01/06/2008 9:29:23 PM

    DOES GUILLIANI HAVE A TICK? HIS EYES OPEN REALLY WIDE EVERY SECOND. HITLER USED THE SAME EYE CONTACT TECHNIQUE BUT HE DID IT ON PURPOSE. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME FOR SURE IF THIS IS A TICK OR IF IT IS BEING DONE ON PURPOSE.

    WE ALREADY KNOW OBAMA IS GOING TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION. NEW HAMpSHIRE HAS MANY YOUNG COLLEGE GRADUATES AND INDEpENDENTS. THIS IS OBAMA'S BASE, AND HE IS GOING TO WIN BY A LARGE MARGIN THERE. THIS IS NOT pROpAGANDA, THIS IS A MOVEMENT FOR REAL CHANGE AND NOTHING CAN STOp IT. THIS WAVE IS GOING TO RISE HIGHER AFTER EVERY STATE.

    EDWARDS MIGHT COME IN SECOND IN NEW HAMpSHIRE, NO ONE TALKS ABOUT THAT.WHY/ THE ESTABLISHED MEDIA, IE. MSNBC IS BACKING HILLARY. THERE ARE pEOpLE WITHIN THE HILLARY CAMp WHO REFUSE TO ACCEpT THE NEW pOLITICS OF CHANGE. ALL MY ANALYSIS HAVE BEEN DEAD ON. MY COMMENTS ARE SO ACCURATE THAT pEOpLE ACTUALLY THINK I WORK FOR ONE OF THE CAMpAIGNS. WHEN pEOpLE ARE DEFEATED, LIKE THE HILLARY CAMp, THEY BECOME BITTER AND DESpERATE AND REACT LIKE TOM. WITH A LOT OF ANGER AND DENIAL. IT IS THEIR WAY OF TAKING BACK CONTROL FROM A SUpERIOR CAMpAIGN. HILLARY UNDERESTIMATED YOUNG pEOpLE IN THIS COUNTRY, MAYBE SHE THOUGHT THIS GROUp WAS 'NAIVE" AND COULD NOT SEE THROUGH HER SCRIpTED CAMpAIGN. HOpEFULLY THE HILLARY CAMp WILL LEARN FROM pEOpLE LIKE TOM, YOU LOOK DUMB WHEN YOU REACT NEGATIVE AND BEGIN TO LIE. WHAT A pOLITICAL FAN LIKE ME WILL BE LOOKING AT IN NEW HAMpSHIRE IS THE BATTLE BETWEEN OBAMA AND McCAIN FOR THE INDEpENENT VOTERS. THIS WILL BE A GOOD INDICATOR TO SEE HOW STRONG OBAMA IS NATIONALLY.
    LET'S LOOK AHEAD TO THE pRESEDENTIAL ELECTION. OBAMA VS ?. THIS IS WHERE THE ANN COULTIER'S AND THE RUSH LIMBALLS WILL BEGIN THEIR MADNESS. BOTH ANN COULTIER AND RUSH LIMBALLS HAVE BEEN ADDICTED TO pAIN KILLERS. THAT IS WHY, AT TIMES, THEY SOUND LIKE TOM OR LIKE SOME CRACK HEAD FROM THE "HOOD'. THEY GO ON THESE TIRADES WHICH SEND A MESSAGE OF HATE AND RACISM. THE ONLY WAY THE REpEBULICANS CAN WIN, IS TOO LIE THEY DO NOT HAVE A REALISTIC CHANCE OF WINNING THE pRESIDENCY. pEOpLE WANT CHANGE.

    THE INSURANCE COMPANIES RUN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. EVERY CANDATE FEELS THE INSURANCE COMPANIES MUST SUSTAIN THEIR PROFITS. THIS IS WHY NO REPUBLICAN CAN 'FIX HEALTH CARE'. WHEN IT COMES TO DOMESTIC POLICIES LIKE ENERGY, HEALTH CARE, CHILD CARE , MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUTS, OUTSOURCING, THE REPUBLICAN GET 'DWARFED', THE ONLY ISSUE THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE IS TERRORISM. NO ONE AGREES WITH AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY, SO THE REPUBLICANS DO NOT EVEN HAVE LEVERAGE ON THIS ISSUE. MAYBE IF BIN LADEN IS CAPTURED THE REPUBLICANS CAN TWIST THE STORY AND CLAIM THEY INDEED HAVE A SUCCESSFUL FOREIGN POLICY. THIS WOULD LEAD THE TIGHTENING OF CIVIL LIBERITIES IE. PATRIOT ACT. HUCKABEE
    PROVIDED THE BEST ANSWERS. McCAIN ONLY ADVANTAGE IS FOREIGN POLICY WHERE HE DWAFS EVERY CANDIDIATE, REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT. I LIKE RON PAUL'S RESPONSE IN THE DEBATE. HE CLEARLY SHOWED THAT THE CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN ABUSED AND IGNORED.



  • Posted By: NCSU2010 @ 01/06/2008 9:24:48 PM

    HAHA, this website is great, The opening view is " Jesus and Satan brothers? do Morman's really teach this?", maybe you should bash Christians and not just us members of the church, and then read Genesis, it was a little amusing though

  • Posted By: sjgman @ 01/06/2008 9:19:41 PM

    While all this mindless bantering goes on the only candidate with anything important to say ( Ron Paul) is totally ignored.If the biased news media let Ron Paul speak the other candidates would be exposed as being the bufoons they really are. Corporate lackeys with no concern for the American people. They represent the corporate greed that is killing this country not the American people. If you believe in freedom, liberty, the constitution and restoring the country that our forefathers promised us, vote for Ron Paul. Go to ronpaul2008.com to find out more. We need to take the country back from the corporations and the globalists that are killing America as we know it. Romney, McCain, Guilani, Clinton, Obama, Edwards and the rest will only lead us down the path of destruction. If we don't turn this country around, fifty years from now we'll all be speaking Spanish, there will be no middle class and America as we know it will be destroyed.

  • Posted By: NCSU2010 @ 01/06/2008 9:19:08 PM

    HAHA funny, the first think on the page " Satan and Jesus are brothers?", maybe you should just bash Christians and not just mormans

  • Posted By: Politician101 @ 01/06/2008 9:07:22 PM

    I pray that the debate we all saw Saturday is the last of its type. It's ok to debunk or disagree with your colleague, that???s the whole reason we have multiple individuals running for President. I implore the GOP, not to reduce themselves to the level of bickering as that they did on Saturday. It was almost like watching a male version of The View, just ridiculous. It???s safe to say that across the entire spectrum of candidates in both parties that they want what???s best for America. The best way to convince the American people that they are the best candidate for the job is by clearly stating and maintaining their respective positions on particular issues. There???s nothing wrong with correctly outlining the short comings of an idea or proposal of another colleague, but if the GOP continue to debate in the manner as they have Saturday then they???re going to have a hard time convincing America that any of them are the candidate of choice for our 44th President.

  • Posted By: Politician101 @ 01/06/2008 9:06:55 PM

    I pray that the debate we all saw Saturday is the last of its type. It's ok to debunk or disagree with your colleague, that???s the whole reason we have multiple individuals running for President. I implore the GOP, not to reduce themselves to the level of bickering as that they did on Saturday. It was almost like watching a male version of The View, just ridiculous. It???s safe to say that across the entire spectrum of candidates in both parties that they want what???s best for America. The best way to convince the American people that they are the best candidate for the job is by clearly stating and maintaining their respective positions on particular issues. There???s nothing wrong with correctly outlining the short comings of an idea or proposal of another colleague, but if the GOP continue to debate in the manner as they have Saturday then they???re going to have a hard time convincing America that any of them are the candidate of choice for our 44th President.

  • Posted By: ridger @ 01/06/2008 9:04:48 PM

    today we had the privilage of attended a japanese mormon church service in salt lake city it happened to be a fast and testimony meeting and the blessing of a relatives baby. at this service we worshiped the Lord Jesus Christ we sang of Christ , we testified of The Lord Jesus and of his ressurection and atonement we took the sacrement of the Lords supper we took upon ourselves the name of Christ to always remember him. I could'nt understand much of what was said in japanese but was able to worship the Lord with another group of fellow LDS people. It was a good day.

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