Science Finds God

I think the earth is way too complex for our scientists to explain. There is definately an order to the universe, and how did something come from nothing?? That question has plagued me all of my life. But God says in the Bible that we are not to know until His time, & that's where the faith for me comes in. I believe because I also believe Darwin is wrong about evolution. I believe because of certain factors, some things may have " morphed into something a bit different. But man has always looked human, even if neanderthal. There is a God, my heart just tells me there is.

Today we have amazing scientists, who have made spectacular discoveries. With the help of technology, we are able to learn a lot about the creations on earth. Technology helps us see the unseen and learn the unknown.
Now, think about this for a minute??? go back in time???to a time when there was no technology???more than 1400 years ago to be a little more specific. Now that you???re there, I want you to imagine what it was like not having the technology we have today, what it must have been like to be guessing the creation on earth. Looking up at the sky, and at the ground around you??? back then the people thought that the earth was flat and that the mountains kept the sky up. The people had no idea that the earth was round??? that the mountains were like pegs holding the earth firmly, and they didn???t know that beyond the sky was a universe, one where other planets existed and floated in harmony in an invisible orbit around the sun.
The verses in the Qur???an, which was sent down more than 1400 years ago, explains these facts??? the Qur???an gives scientific explanations of the creation of the earth, the steps in which the human was created in the mother???s womb, the levels of the sky, which blocks out certain harmful rays from the sun??? and more???
But one of my favorite verses is the one which talks about two bodies of sea???s which are separated with an invisible barrier??? one of them is more salient than the other??? no one knew which sea this verse was describing, but when one scientist went to the Mediterranean sea, he found that the Atlantic ocean and the Mediterranean sea were separated with an invisible barrier??? one was more salient than the other??? another man told him that this was described in the Qur???an more than 1400 years ago???
Here???s the verse to that explanation:
He has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between them they do not break through. (Qur'an, 55:19-20)
Here is a link http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_index.html which has more scientific facts which brings religion and science together as one. There is a God, and he???s only one God, Moses is our Prophet, Jesus is our Prophet, and Mohammed is our Prophet??? all of them are messengers of God, none are to be worshipped beside God. Only God is to be worshipped alone.

Today we have amazing scientists, who have made spectacular discoveries. With the help of technology, we are able to learn a lot about the creations on earth. Technology helps us see the unseen and learn the unknown.
Now, think about this for a minute??? go back in time???to a time when there was no technology???more than 1400 years ago to be a little more specific. Now that you???re there, I want you to imagine what it was like not having the technology we have today, what it must have been like to be guessing the creation on earth. Looking up at the sky, and at the ground around you??? back then the people thought that the earth was flat and that the mountains kept the sky up. The people had no idea that the earth was round??? that the mountains were like pegs holding the earth firmly, and they didn???t know that beyond the sky was a universe, one where other planets existed and floated in harmony in an invisible orbit around the sun.
The verses in the Qur???an, which was sent down more than 1400 years ago, explains these facts??? the Qur???an gives scientific explanations of the creation of the earth, the steps in which the human was created in the mother???s womb, the levels of the sky, which blocks out certain harmful rays from the sun??? and more???
But one of my favorite verses is the one which talks about two bodies of sea???s which are separated with an invisible barrier??? one of them is more salient than the other??? no one knew which sea this verse was describing, but when one scientist went to the Mediterranean sea, he found that the Atlantic ocean and the Mediterranean sea were separated with an invisible barrier??? one was more salient than the other??? another man told him that this was described in the Qur???an more than 1400 years ago???
Here???s the verse to that explanation:
He has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between them they do not break through. (Qur'an, 55:19-20)
Here is a link http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_index.html which has more scientific facts which brings religion and science together as one. There is a God, and he???s only one God, Moses is our Prophet, Jesus is our Prophet, and Mohammed is our Prophet??? all of them are messengers of God, none are to be worshipped beside God. Only God is to be worshipped alone.

First of all, to Mr MVharrin, how could someone, such as yourself (lacking omnipotence), possibly judge the actions of a being with Omnipotence? I don't see that as being possible since you have no real common base for comparison. Just a thought for you.

Anyway, I believe I came to this conclusion at about 15. Chaos mathematics in itself shows us that there are too many variables in this universe for any one man to judge or make predictions about every event in the system. But it is fairly sustainable that there is still order to it. Do you see the entire universe dispersing in to a mass of homogenized particles? I don't think so, as we can plainly see with a nice telescope that as we look coreward we do not see a mass of homogenized particles.

Faith is still required. Not faith that the rules are right or wrong, but more that the rules were devised by someone with a bit more capacity than us as individuals. Life and the complexity of the rules of the universe, in and of themselves, can direct you in the general direction of God. Which is why I would like to mention that Einstein, while not being absolutely right about all of his discoveries got many along the right path when he simply stated: 'To anyone who truly peruses science, it becomes evident that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe.' It is simply too complex to be random. Randomly formed systems lack complexity as simplicity is the key factor in said random systems.

God bless you all.

One website anyone reading this article should attend - www.godandscience.org

On this website, not only does the author support every argument for creationism/design with hard, empirical, scientific evidence, which he does not hesitate to cite, he even goes into why Christianity is the proper religion of choice if one wants to find God through science. All the scientific claims made in the Bible that pertain to the earth have been proven true through research and findings done only in the past century. Very accurate for a book written by what some would believe were eccentric shepherds in the desert.

Trust me, that site will really open your eyes - I am a scientific-minded person, and the evidence that the author on that site gives is ironclad.

I have studied many many disciplines,mathematics,physics,astronomy,chemistry,biology,psychiatry and many religions.
my youth traversed through the decades of the old south of the 50"s to the new south of 2009. I have lived through the anger and hate of the racial years and was a witness to physical and mental abuse that not only the afro american went through but also the bigotry and hate that other cultuers went through and i am a white southern man of 57.
my pont being that the science and disciplines have given us a better life style and opened our senses to an amazing universe and amazing planet,but all this is a discovery of what is already created and our disciplines are a reflection of how this creation works.Our computers,cars,houses,the space shuttle are made from the elements that already exsist,we just figured out a way to make these elements work for us.Even with all our acomplishments we still ask who we are and how did we become the guardians of this planet. Some people say we are aliens,some say we are a product of evolution and others say we started in a beautifull garden that we are trying to get back too.I believe we are maybe a little of all of these ideas.We are alien in the fact that we have been here on this planet for a short time compared to everything else that has lived here ,and we are a evolving product.Because of that very evolution we have become the guardians of this planet, and the guardians of our species.The fact is this evolvement has given us a power to destroy our species ,and maybe our species should be called our family of brothers,sisters,and many cousins.
I believe that there is something else that guides us beyond ourselves,and it changes us if we let it,but we have to want that change.Maybe this something else has guided us to elect our new president,and given us another chance to rid ourselves of hate and bigotry , to keep our country strong andfree. to reach for the stars and guard our planet with our disciplines.Maybe this something is the guardian of our conscious,of our endeavor to change,and to care for our planet with respect to what has been given to us. We still cannot explain what came first ,the chicken or the egg.I have always wondered if dinosouars could talk or write after evolving for 65 million years, it only took our species a few thousand.

The debate over intelligent design by a creator continues to rage on! Many say that faith, religion & the bible are not scientific or cannot be proved scientifically! But perhaps, they are overlooking some realities of truth found within humankind! After all, why do humans have a conscience? Appreciate beauty and art? Feel love? Are wonderfully and masterfully made? Able to taste? See in color? And why do we live on a planet [like no other!] brimming with life, both animal and plant & all designed in an extraordinary way as to show intelligence & organization, rather than something random or by chance! The facts, or accurate knowledge [that is science] show that the entire known universe exemplifies order/design/intelligence! One man put it this way "For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world's creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable"

The notion that science in some sense demonstrates that life and existence are "meaningless" seems to me a serious misunderstanding of the world as science displays it, at least as I understand it. The sciences seem, on the contrary, to present the universe as almost overly charged with meaning, with correlations and cross-currents of significance, from the entanglement of subatomic particles to the mega-relations of dark matter and energy on the vast scales of galaxy clusters. It may not always be a meaning I can readily absorb or decipher, and it may not always be consoling or uplifting, but there seems to be no lack of it. Whether that meaning speaks of the God of the Bible, or the gods of antiquity, of Tao or Nirvana, or simply of a sense of the absolute otherness of ultimate reality, the metaphysical wonder of being and of our awareness of it, that seems to me more than enough significance for this mortal to deal with and ponder, and even find peculiar consolation in. The wonder is that we are - and a recognition of that wonder, with gratitude at the heart of it, is a piety without dogma, whether religious or secular, that I can see no reason to dispense with.

The scientific method assumes that man can create conditions in the universe that otherwise would not have existed. This means that mankind is to some extent free of the universe. How humans can be free of the universe is an awesome question.

Religion of Allah (God ) also evolved starting with are mutual father and mother Adam and Eve took its final or last step in the shape of Islam.Science is a tool to reach god and tell us that who is the creator some laws which are true on earth do tend to change in the universe so it seems as if the nature is telling us that things can be changed with change in the dimensions.

This is such a big topic. Its cool that so many others are interested in this too. Why is it now that science finds GOD?, Is it because having fear of the unknown and wanting something to believe in because we all are unaware of what is going to happen in the future? So many things are to take place, ( because of what Philosiphers have predicted ), from the Myans calander ending Dec 21 2012, to the Earth lining up with the Other planets and having an eclipse at the same time, and who knows whats going to happen then. Also, the Rapture , who knows when thats supposed to take place?, supposably this year in the spring. Ofcourse during all this, noone wants to be left behind when GOD comes and calls upon his people. I think a lot of people have a fear in that., He ( GOD) wants to start all over again is what I believe. He doesnt want Corruption and War and Famish, Hurt or Killing. Thats not what were here for, But why are we here????????????
So we start as babies, through the ages of 1 and 5 we are so innocent to everything, and then through adolesence we test our bounderies with our parents go through school to get an education, some pass some fail, because of our own choices or sometimes we fail because of our up bringing, But what gets me is during this time in our life, We are knowledgable of making the right choices even though we go through a tough time growing up, but we sometimes still make the same mistakes as our parents and they, as their parents did as well. Lets take drugs for instance, People take them, Why, either because, they dont want to feel pain anymore, ofcourse get addicted then. Instead of facing the reality they are now running from, instead of finding out who they really are, or how to deal with their problems. Why did man make these things?. To eventually destroy ourselves and our family. Thats pretty F**ked up I'd say. Thats why I think GOD wants to start over as I said before..... Believe in him, HE MADE YOU!!!!!!

This is such a big topic. Its cool that so many others are interested in this too. Why is it now that science finds GOD?, Is it because having fear of the unknown and wanting something to believe in because we all are unaware of what is going to happen in the future? So many things are to take place, ( because of what Philosiphers have predicted ), from the Myans calander ending Dec 21 2012, to the Earth lining up with the Other planets and having an eclipse at the same time, and who knows whats going to happen then. Also, the Rapture , who knows when thats supposed to take place?, supposably this year in the spring. Ofcourse during all this, noone wants to be left behind when GOD comes and calls upon his people. I think a lot of people have a fear in that., He ( GOD) wants to start all over again is what I believe. He doesnt want Corruption and War and Famish, Hurt or Killing. Thats not what were here for, But why are we here????????????
So we start as babies, through the ages of 1 and 5 we are so innocent to everything, and then through adolesence we test our bounderies with our parents go through school to get an education, some pass some fail, because of our own choices or sometimes we fail because of our up bringing, But what gets me is during this time in our life, We are knowledgable of making the right choices even though we go through a tough time growing up, but we sometimes still make the same mistakes as our parents and they, as their parents did as well. Lets take drugs for instance, People take them, Why, either because, they dont want to feel pain anymore, ofcourse get addicted then. Instead of facing the reality they are now running from, instead of finding out who they really are, or how to deal with their problems. Why did man make these things?. To eventually destroy ourselves and our family. Thats pretty F**ked up I'd say. Thats why I think GOD wants to start over as I said before..... Believe in him, HE MADE YOU!!!!!!

Science and Religion need each other to survive. Religion causes war, and science makes weapons for it.
If science didn't exist then the world more in likely follow one religion while others secretly worshiped their God or Goddess. The Christian hunts to the Pegan Hunts, to fighting for the "holy land". Religion is hate filled, and science is grateful.
The Goddess or God will only be found once that hatred is released, and people allow others to give their hearts to those they feel within their soul, deserve such an honor: wither it be a human, or the divine.

Wow. There are so many intelligent passionate people in the world. I have read all of your comments and was intrigued by them all. It is amazing that we are such curious creatures inspired by our need to discover everything we can about everything. It's no wonder we get all caught up in questioning and dissecting every aspect of everything. OUR NEEDS are so powerful and influencial.
As for Science verses Religion..... Well for what it's worth to others, I believe that the search for answers to the how and why of ourselves and our universe has proved very benificial in so many aspects of our lives. It has no doubt had a profound effect on our existance for the good. However selfishness has distorted alot of this gained knowledge into things very damaging to our existance. Enter Faith. The whole purpose I believe to the idea of faith and God is to bring peace to our souls and those around us while we are here effecting the earth and those in it to help ensure our survival in it's most primative form. To achieve this there must be a non selfish motive in all we do. By believing in a power greater than ourselves, which is evident in both Science and Spirituallity, we can make decisions that effect everything and everyone around us possitively. By coming from a place within that has no selfish motives, we create positive outcomes and peace within. Then like a cycle it spreads to everyone and everything around us. And so on.
That to me is the power we call GOD. If we used this method in all we do, including science we would be in a world that was unimaginably healthy, peaceful and intelligent beyond our wildest dreams. I don't need a bible or religion to know this, and I don't need science to prove it to me factually. I just feel it with every fiber of my being.

Science is like a microscope (or telescope) which at first is murky (as in its infancy) but later on becomes clear, and when one looks through it, he sees God etched in the "DNA" of creation. For nature which is a creation of God will inevitably lead all that seek to unravel its mysteries to its author.

In Job 38:4-7 God asks ...
4"Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding.
5Who determined its measurements???surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
6On what were its bases sunk,
or who laid its cornerstone,
7when the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"

And verses 31-33...
31"Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades
or loose the cords of Orion?
32Can you lead forth the Mazzaroth in their season,
or can you guide the Bear with its children?
33Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you establish their rule on the earth?"

1 "The heavens declare the glory of God,
and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.
2Day to day pours out speech,
and night to night reveals knowledge.
3There is no speech, nor are there words,
whose voice is not heard.
4 Their voice goes out through all the earth,
and their words to the end of the world.
In them he has set a tent for the sun,
5 which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber,
and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy.
6Its rising is from the end of the heavens,
and its circuit to the end of them,
and there is nothing hidden from its heat."
Psalm 19:1-6