What's Wrong with Edwards' Mini-Ads

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  • Posted By: palan80 @ 01/19/2008 11:31:34 PM

    Wrong on both counts; at the time the ad on "only" was made, he was the only; by the time the "more recent"poll ran, he wasn't in it. As for Kuncinich being another foe of NAFTA, you never considered him competition to the big 3 until it became convenient to use him to beat up the third. Once more the media has insured that the populist candidate will be eclipsed by those acceptable to the corporate status quo. NEWSWEEK, you suck!

  • Posted By: miked45 @ 01/19/2008 10:46:40 AM

    Ok let me get this straight-- Edwards was not included in a recent poll? Why not? You in the media ignored him and then say he is not truthful. And when Edwards does not include Kucinich in his ad -- That is wrong? Does the media dictate all of the terms? Who should and should not be included?

  • Posted By: sarahjaneASU @ 01/18/2008 11:21:22 AM

    There is definitely something shady going on with all these bullsh** articles. It is a shame that our electoral system is so messed up that the media has the most say on who is best for the people, or in their case, who will scratch their back the best. Why would CNN include Edwards to begin with?? This article right here negates your first point about that - http://www.skirsch.com/politics/president/comparison.htm

  • Posted By: Milx @ 01/18/2008 2:44:23 AM

    Yea, sorry Newsweek. Your association with MSNBC sort of negates the "Remember Dennis" argument. Try remembering Dennis when it comes time for the next debate, thanks. The "only" Ad is incorrect in that there is a more recent poll than the one it is referring to, but he is referring to the most recent poll that he is included in.. so it is sort of true as well. True enough for an American election at least.

  • Posted By: Milx @ 01/18/2008 2:43:37 AM

    Yea, sorry Newsweek. Your association with MSNBC sort of negates the "Remember Dennis" argument. Try remembering Dennis when it comes time for the next debate, thanks. The "only" Ad is incorrect in that there is a more recent poll than the one it is referring to, but he is referring to the most recent poll that he is included in.. so it is sort of true as well. True enough for an American election at least.

  • Posted By: 777EdwardsBest777 @ 01/17/2008 10:16:50 PM

    What's wrong with Edwards' Ads? NOTHING!!! Except perhaps that GE, NBC, et al, don't want Edwards to be heard, and certainly would prefer the candidates that are marinated in corporate cash. Come on, you guys didn't even know Kucinich existed before the opportunity to use his candidacy to make a bogus argument against John Edwards came along. Give me a break!!!

  • Posted By: bucklaw @ 01/17/2008 6:44:03 PM

    How about Obama on LIquid Coal and his friendship with GE? Also will MSNBC stop posting ads on their website for Obama even though paid for and doing fluff pieces, IN HIS OWN WORDS....

  • Posted By: bucklaw @ 01/17/2008 6:42:29 PM

    Let us cut to the chase. First John Edwards was the first to use the concept of beating Republicans. Also, Kucinich is now mentioned he is a wonderful person but by the standard of the network is not in this race.
    The ad also said and I quote you beats all, you state, "Most recent" they state recent. Edwards most vehemently opposes Nafta unlike Barack. Remember the Veterans. Stop posting ads for Obama on MSNBC.

  • Posted By: TrueBlueAmerican @ 01/17/2008 5:23:17 PM

    Yay!!! FINALLY someone is covering the Edwards campaign! It may not be good attention, but at least it's some attention.

  • Posted By: franklloydmike @ 01/17/2008 4:24:12 PM

    This is no different, and I'd submit not nearly as deceiving as Obama's clever assertion that he does not accept contributions from "federal lobbyists" while actually accepting money from state lobbyists. There's not a lot of wiggle room in a 10-second ad, so the point is obviously going to be simplified, and with how overlooked he's been by the media, maybe it needs to be simplified. There has, however, been plenty of time over the last several months that Obama has been spewing lies and half-truthes about his record and policy ideas to ask him probing questions and dig a little deeper to see that he is just following the Reagan 1980 election playbook. There is nothing new about Obama, and worst of all there is nothing reformist about him. If John Edwards has to use a simplified, 10-second ad to make that point, I see no harm.

  • Posted By: cromagnan @ 01/17/2008 4:21:34 PM

    THERE IS A BIG RISK IN VOTING FOR OBAMA OR CLINTON. Consider this: If Americans find themselves unable to vote for a Black male or a Female at the last minute, we could end up with a HUCKABEE

  • Posted By: cromagnan @ 01/17/2008 4:17:22 PM

    WAA WAA, STOP WHINING. George Bush used Flip Flop ads to make Kerry look bad and then Bush went on to become one of the biggest Flip Floppers of all time. Edwards is a saint compared to some of the other candidates out there.

  • Posted By: adamskr59 @ 01/17/2008 3:53:47 PM

    I don't think anyone is scared of Edwards. I think he a viable candidate don't get me wrong and I want to see him stay in the race, but scared???? I think it is unreasonable to think any poitician is exempt from some connections to business and lobbists. But I don't think this means they are in the pockets of either one of these groups either. The Dems don't need to fight with each other. Tell us what they can do and then show a united front against the Republicans. We need that.

  • Posted By: EdwardsTurn @ 01/17/2008 3:01:39 PM

    Could it be that the reason Edwards was not included in the "recent' poll is that the media, largely owned by Republicans, does not want him in the race? He is the only one following his plan of not letting big companies own the president by not taking money from lobbyists. The others are selling themselves just like they always do. And if they want a 2nd term, they have to stay in the pocket of the people who finance them the irst time.

  • Posted By: msmaggie @ 01/17/2008 2:41:00 PM

    Unreal! What about all the mistakes in the Clinton and Obama ads? When Obama said he was the only one to beat all the Republicans did you question that? MSNBC and Newsweek must be really afraid of John Edwards to run an article like this.

  • Posted By: alinefx @ 01/17/2008 1:45:36 PM

    Could it be the MSNBC/GE/Newsweek would make this even a "story"?? From the time Edwards made his ad (when the "old" poll was the "latest") till the time the new "poll" (which conveniently left out Edwards, due to the corporatocracy being scared of his populism and anti-corporate/lobby rhetoric) came out, it could be easily possible for his ad to still be running. This "news story" is only one to take any kind of shot at Edwards who DOES have BEAT all republicans head to head in a general election matchup. And since this fact got known, suddenly new CNN "polls" rise up that state the other two corporate shills also do now. The MSM is a pathetic bunch of toadies masquerading as the "free" press when it is the farthest thing from that. For proof of that, let's just see how long my post lasts on this site.

  • Posted By: alinefx @ 01/17/2008 1:44:35 PM

    Could it be the MSNBC/GE/Newsweek would make this even a "story"?? From the time Edwards made his ad (when the "old" poll was the "latest") till the time the new "poll" (which conveniently left out Edwards, due to the corporatocracy being scared of his populism and anti-corporate/lobby rhetoric) came out, it could be easily possible for his ad to still be running. This "news story" is only one to take any kind of shot at Edwards who DOES have BEAT all republicans head to head in a general election matchup. And since this fact got known, suddenly new CNN "polls" rise up that state the other two corporate shills also do now. The MSM is a pathetic bunch of toadies masquerading as the "free" press when it is the farthest thing from that. For proof of that, let's just see how long my post lasts on this site.

  • Posted By: alinefx @ 01/17/2008 1:41:49 PM

    Could it be the MSNBC/GE/Newsweek would make this even a "story"?? From the time Edwards made his ad (when the "old" poll was the "latest") till the time the new "poll" (which conveniently left out Edwards, due to the corporatocracy being scared of his populism and anti-corporate/lobby rhetoric) came out, it could be easily possible for his ad to still be running. This "news story" is only one to take any kind of shot at Edwards who DOES have BEAT all republicans head to head in a general election matchup. And since this fact got known, suddenly new CNN "polls" rise up that state the other two corporate shills also do now. The MSM is a pathetic bunch of toadies masquerading as the "free" press when it is the farthest thing from that. For proof of that, let's just see how long my post lasts on this site.

  • Posted By: timsheridan @ 01/17/2008 1:32:19 PM

    I can't believe Newsweek and MSNBC would publish this - and make it a top headline, no less. We all appreciate Dennis Kucinich's selfless contribution to the debate, but Democrats know very well that's where his "candidacy" ends. John Edwards is the only anti-NAFTA candidate 'running' for president; Kucinich is in a slow crawl at best. ..and, by the by, Mike Gravel is still on the ballot - and he's against NAFTA as well - I notice he was selectively glossed over by the Hypocrite, er, I mean Author.

  • Posted By: bluebell516 @ 01/17/2008 1:23:11 PM

    Obahama invokes the name of Ronald Regan - the same Ronald Regan who "Broke the Unions"! Today's labor unions are pretty much powerless leaving the average blue collar worker out in the cold. John Edwards seems to be the only candidate who is addressing the issues of the working middle class. I hope he gets the Democratic nomination. He'll get my vote!

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