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  • Posted By: lamullen @ 01/17/2008 11:09:00 AM

    My body, my choice. It's not about you god, it's not about the father (of the fetus), it's not about forced morals or values, it's not about anyone's opinion but the person who is pregnant and either A. doesn't want to be or B. is pregnant with a fetus with severe defects. It's not someone else's right to make decisions about my, or anyone else's, uterus.

    I'm glad the abortion rate had declined. Apparently this study didn't take into consideration that RU486 (Mifeprestone) abortions are, indeed, abortions themselves. I applaud the fact that medication based pregnancy termination lets women terminate so early and so simply. Many women were forced to wait for abortions while they saved the money to obtain the services of the provider. Many insurance plans do offer discounts on abortion services, but they will not fully cover them.

    You need to take your 'god' out of the equation and look at the reality of it- you can't have a perfect solution for an imperfect problem.

    Lots of pro-lifers don't believe in birth control or Plan B either, because they feel that it may indeed induce an abortion as well. Come on, guys, there is NO PERFECT SOLUTION!

  • Posted By: PatriotWriter @ 01/17/2008 11:08:55 AM

    This story has an obvious bias toward pro-choice views and left-leaning research when the entire article quotes Planned Parenthood, NOW, and others entrenched in the politics of abortion. The only pro-life statement was hidden in five lines at the very end of the article, just early enough to give the Guttmacher folks the last word. Technology and the new information available to pregnant women makes a lot better stroy than the tired old "abortion providers aren't available" line. Did anyone stop to consider that abortion profits are dropping due to decreased demand, so there is less incentive for clinics to set up in small towns to butcher our children?

  • Posted By: ctiberi @ 01/17/2008 11:07:08 AM

    I think they forgot to mention the big three letter word in this article - GOD. I truly believe many people's prayers have been answered and many lives have been spared.

  • Posted By: lovelife @ 01/17/2008 11:00:57 AM

    You don't have to believe in God to know that killing is wrong. If the issue is making choices with your body, you should make better choices before the surprise pregnancy occurs. Afterall, pregnancy is the natural consequence of sex.

  • Posted By: telicity @ 01/17/2008 11:00:19 AM

    I think you may be right mntnmoveroo, I had a very hard time conceiving, and I know several women who have had trouble also.

  • Posted By: Caveman1701 @ 01/17/2008 10:59:50 AM

    It just seems so sad to me that people can end the life of an unborn child and explain it away as something they don't have a feeling about. That is cold. All life is precious. All life. Even the potential for life. I find it strange, in my experiences, that people who are okay with abortion also seem to have a strong anger for animal cruelty\euthenasia. Yet those same feelings do not extend to that of an unborn human child. How do you separate those beliefs?? You don't have to believe in God to see that humans need help to find their way. The rationalization of cruelty is just sooo sad and very very cold.

  • Posted By: Caveman1701 @ 01/17/2008 10:59:27 AM

    It just seems so sad to me that people can end the life of an unborn child and explain it away as something they don't have a feeling about. That is cold. All life is precious. All life. Even the potential for life. I find it strange, in my experiences, that people who are okay with abortion also seem to have a strong anger for animal cruelty\euthenasia. Yet those same feelings do not extend to that of an unborn human child. How do you separate those beliefs?? You don't have to believe in God to see that humans need help to find their way. The rationalization of cruelty is just sooo sad and very very cold.

  • Posted By: mntnmover00 @ 01/17/2008 10:57:57 AM

    This article didn't mention whether the abortion decline could be related to women just not conceiving as often as they used too. It seems like there are so many women that can't get pregnant these days.

  • Posted By: jbird1 @ 01/17/2008 10:54:42 AM

    destroying your off spring is wrong, whether there is a god or not. gee, if I want it, its a baby, if i don't, its a fetus., even if it is six month along and can live outside the womb. That makes perfect sense, no wonder kids heads are so screwed up.

  • Posted By: CIAmom007 @ 01/17/2008 10:34:29 AM

    Ok, think 4 yourself, it doesn't always come down to just being sloppy. I got pregnant while on the pill because I was given incorrect info. from my doctor in regards to antibiotics and the effect it has on the pills effectiveness. I wasn't being sloppy at all. I did what I thought I was supposed to do to insure that it wouldn't happen. I didn't make a "Poor Choice" at all. I got pregnant 3 weeks after I stopped the antibiotic. Oh well, so my body is sensative, what can I say. I am not the only one that this happened too. There are others who had condom mishaps as well. Things just sometimes happen when you think you are doing everything right.

    • Posted By: telicity @ 01/17/2008 10:49:51 AM

      most people who really don't want to get pregnant use a condom as backup, especially while using antibiotics.

  • Posted By: forgivenandredeemed @ 01/17/2008 10:37:05 AM

    Posted By: forgivenandredeemed @ 01/17/2008 10:33:41
    Comment: to Proud Military Wife: There is a God and He created all of us. I can tell from your writing that you know Him and recognize you belong to Him. As a woman who chose abortion, I have received the utmost level of forgiveness for that selfish act...forgiveness from God, then I learned to forgive myself, and continue to stand before my state legislature and share my testimony, as well as sitting knees to knees with other post-abortive women as they search for healing. Perhaps the drop in abortions is due to the countless number of us post-abortive women who have used our experience to be a voice for the unborn.

  • Posted By: tdn0024 @ 01/17/2008 10:36:52 AM

    Bout time for the anti-abortion folks to get behind funding a technology for popping out early stage fetuses for so they can be nurtured in another woman or externally.

    The rest of us are sick of the bickering.

    Technology solves problems.

    Create the technology. I'm sure most pregnant girls and women would choose a fetal adoption over abortion.

    Let's get back to choosing our politicians based on our actual independent lives, not a fetus potential future independent life.

  • Posted By: Proud Military wife @ 01/17/2008 9:58:39 AM

    oh please I did not say that i have no respect for the weak. I belive that we are teaching our children not to respect life and all people. by saying that abortion is ok. Those are the most weak, and then we dont understand why they dont care for the elderly. Who are we to put value on someones life. Everylife should be valued. I do not seat here and judge. My mother once had abortion. And I love my mother, and respect my mother. But I know the pain that it caused her. She never expected the feelings of emptyness when she had her abotion. and the feelings of sadness that she can't understand. I think we need to love all women even the ones that have or will have abotions, but does not make it right. Your looking for things that I said to turn or read in to, instead of trying to understand me

    • Posted By: forgivenandredeemed @ 01/17/2008 10:33:41 AM

      to Proud Military Wife: There is a God and He created all of us. I can tell from your writing that you know Him and recognize you belong to Him. As a woman who chose abortion, I have received the utmost level of forgiveness for that selfish act...forgiveness from God, then I learned to forgive myself, and continue to stand before my state legislature and share my testimony, as well as sitting knees to knees with other post-abortive women as they search for healing. Perhaps the drop in abortions is due to the countless number of us post-abortive women who have used our experience to be a voice for the unborn.

    • Posted By: blue_rylie @ 01/17/2008 10:14:36 AM

      I have to disagree with you. Especially as a fellow military wife. It's hypocritical to say "we teach not to respect life" when your husband serves in a military that takes life. The reality is, like it or not, we value different lives differently. I am teaching my daughters to respect THEIR life first and foremost, their health comes first. With all due respect to your mother, not all women feel that way following an abortion, and many women feel that way following an adoption but we all agree that adoption is a good thing. I do respect your point, and I appreciate your honesty but the truth is we don't value all life equally. I don't value the stranger on the street in the same way I value my children, husband, etc. It's nice to think we would, but it's not what actually goes on.

  • Posted By: Ithink4myself @ 01/17/2008 10:26:36 AM

    blue_rylie: A woman who does not want to, or cannot carry a child to term? This sounds like a sloppy form of birth control. Make your choices before you have sex. Don't take the Choice of life away from those who cannot make it themselves. It's all fine and dandy to say you are pro-choice. I am pro choice too. I choose to decide for myself whether I want to risk getting pregnant and then using the abortion industry (a huge money making industry) rich by my poor choices. Live and let live. Why not make that our motto instead of "peace and love", and then rant and rave about those who choose to have other views?

  • Posted By: CIAmom007 @ 01/17/2008 10:26:36 AM

    Peace and love, I am the one that made the comment about my mom being adopted and also having the abortion, not PMW. I just wanted to make that clear.

  • Posted By: telicity @ 01/17/2008 10:25:18 AM

    I really don't know where those question marks came from

  • Posted By: peace and love @ 01/17/2008 10:22:28 AM

    TRTS
    Thanks for using spell check the second time around. Too bad there isn't a grammar check as well.

    And no, we all can't agree with you. Sorry.

  • Posted By: telicity @ 01/17/2008 10:21:22 AM

    Yes abortion is both a political and religious issue, but it should be basic human instinct not to kill your own child. From the moment a baby is conceived he is on a very fast track to life. I saw my son???s heartbeat at 6 weeks, so tell me he wasn???t alive. From the very moment you conceive you no longer get the luxury of being selfish. When I hear people say, ???nobody better tell me what to do with my body??? I think of a selfish brat being completely inconsiderate of the growing life inside them. Let???s also remember the lovely partial birth abortion that Clinton signed off. Now we can abort babies all the way up until birth. Ron Paul told a story about a woman whose boyfriend broke up with her so she decided to get an abortion at 8 months; the baby survived the abortion so the doctor had to drown the baby. That doctor got charged with murder, so tell me the difference. You tell me it is ok to pull a baby out of the womb at 6,7,8,9 months while still moving and very much alive, put a large needle in its head to kill him, then pull him out after he has died. You seriously tell me that is ok!

  • Posted By: Proud Military wife @ 01/17/2008 9:52:37 AM

    Comment: I never said that. But it is true no matter how you turn your words. There is always a right and wrong. If my children were hungry and I stole bread from you. It is still wrong no matter what the reason. Would I steal bread from you if my children were hungry. yes, does not change that there is consequences to all my actions. And your twisted words does not change that abortion is wrong.

    • Posted By: v63146 @ 01/17/2008 10:19:16 AM

      Oh and by the way, proud military wife, I am a supporter of the military but let's face it - if you're going to be so morally opposed to killing, you may want to find out what is going on overseas. If this becomes an issue of picking and choosing morality, that's more of a personal choice. Think about it.

  • Posted By: dogsRbetterThenPeople @ 01/17/2008 10:15:37 AM

    I think they have overlooked the fact that it is far more acceptable not to have a child when you are young and/or not married than it was in the past. As time passes, fewer and fewer people look down upon those that have a child under these circumstances. Without social pressures that would often times leave a woman disowned from her own family, woman are free to follow their hearts. Many times a woman or a young girl were forced into the abortion by family or the father. Those pressures have eased up considerable since the 1970s.

    The courts have stepped up to make father's responsible as well. With the father's be made to help support the child a woman feels less likely that she will be unable to give the child at least the basic of nessessities.

    Trying to find one solution or a simple solution to the decline is does not fit with the complex world in which we live.

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