Better Prevention or Changing Attitudes?

The Call-7-7-07 in Nashville. This is the reason. 100,000 Americans cried out to God and prayed to end abortion in our country. God is changi9ng the minds and hearts of Americans. Credit and praise to HIM.

Medical Science identifies conception as "the point at which a new individual human being comes into existence, since "when sperm and ovum join to form the zygote, the individual's genotype is established."

Medical Science identifies "abortion as the removal or expulsion of an embryo or fetus from the uterus, resulting in or caused by its death."

If new human existence starts at conception, and embryo's can die, we can logically conclude that a life has been willfully and purposely terminated. Since we know this is legal, the real question is, Is this just or unjust?

Defination of Murder: Murder is the unlawful killing of a human person with malice aforethought.

Definition of Choice: Choice consists of the mental process of thinking involved with the process of judging the merits of multiple options and selecting one of them for action.

Malice is a legal term referring to a party's intention to do injury to another party.

The execution of Abortion is unjust lawful way of putting to death a human with malice aforethought.

An unjust law is no law at all. In meaning, a law that is unjust does not serve the purpose of law.

We have tried to make a system that facilitates making and changing laws in order to continue to serve the cause of justice. But when that system fails, or if society as a whole has failed its commitment to justice, then yes, every citizen has the right to disobey an unjust law. they have the responsibility to first try to effect change through the accepted system. Only when that fails -- when the government fails in its purpose, and when the majority is clearly wrong -- is a citizen justified in breaking the law.

"Jane Roe"
Norma McCorvey became a member of the pro-life movement in 1995; she now supports making abortion illegal. In 1998, she testified to Congress.

??? It was my pseudonym, Jane Roe, which had been used to create the "right" to abortion out of legal thin air. But Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee never told me that what I was signing would allow women to come up to me 15, 20 years later and say, "Thank you for allowing me to have my five or six abortions. Without you, it wouldn't have been possible." Sarah never mentioned women using abortions as a form of birth control. We talked about truly desperate and needy women, not women already wearing maternity clothes.

"Jane Doe"
In 2003, Sandra Cano filed a motion to re-open the case "Doe v. Bolton" claiming that she had not been aware that the case had been filed on her behalf and that if she had known she would not have supported the litigation. The district court denied her motion, and she appealed. When the appeals court also denied her motion,] she requested review by the United States Supreme Court. However, the Supreme Court declined to hear Sandra Cano's suit to overturn the ruling.

A child is more than a "pulsing group of cells" from day one. It doesn't become a human being when you decide its one just because its looking at you in your face. Life really does begin at conception! Everyone has a right to choose what they want to do about their pregnancies. I guess I'm pro-life and pro-choice, because in the end you raise your child on your own. I have two children and I have had two abortions. I regret my abortions especially when I look at my two kids, but at the time I had the abortions I thought it was the right thing for me to do. I felt like I was choosing to either end their life or my life (as I knew it) . I selfishly chose to make my babies the sacrificial lambs so that I could continue to live the way I wanted to. I think in most cases that's what its all about for women who are going through the agonizing decision to terminate their pregnancies . Rarely is the mothers life in danger or she's a rape victim, or something is terribly wrong with the baby. We all made a very selfish choice. Life is all about choices sometimes we make choices we are really proud of and other times we do things we are ashamed of. My lifelong consequence of having two abortions is that I am ashamed that I didn't trust God enough at that point in my life to get me through my circumstances. Today, I am a single mom with two kids and I trust God completely. My life is hard, but I'm not hopeless or selfish like I was in the past and actually my children and I are very happy. In fact, I'm happier and my life has more meaning than it ever did when I chose to have those abortions. Anyway, I don't know why the abortion rates are going down, maybe more women are hearing stories like mine and deciding to have some faith and not to be as selfish as I was.

"abortion is only available in 23% of US counties"

bethyb, as I said in my earlier post, Planned Parenthood is nothing more than BIG BUSINESS. Profit and greed are the key motivating factors in any decision to build new, more accessible facilities. Like Wal-Mart, they will only open up new clinics in large population centers to maximized profits. You don't see Wal-Marts in small towns. Neither will you see Planned Parenthood in small towns. The profit margin is just not worth it. Helping pregnant women is the least of their concerns.

"abortion is only available in 23% of US counties"

bethyb, as I said in an earlier post, Planned Parenthood is nothing but

Bethyb: I don't agree with your logic, but even if I did, would that change in attitudes not be a GOOD thing? If you're not convinced by the moral argument, doesn't this one work: "Abortions are hard to get and expensive, and I know if I had an unintended pregnancy it would be difficult for me to get one, so I'll be more careful???" Are you saying that's a BAD thing if that changes attitudes?

Abortions down and Teen pregnancy is up. Something isn't right. We aren't educating our children, providing them with the protection that they need to make a choice or to protect themselves. Something is wrong in America.

TELICITY: "My husband was pro choice because the women in his life were."
I love that statement. That is the same for my husband who is now a father appalled and deeply saddened by the idea of abortion.

All sorts of women (and men) have children who "should not." Terrible things happen to children at the hands of parents, coaches, neighbors, even priests. Does this make it right to kill the baby to spare them the chance that something bad might happen to them? Geez, then we ought to go take out a whole ton of them--that would really lighten the load of the foster care system.

The only reason "someone else" gets involved in the decision is because there is no one to speak on behalf of the baby.

And as for those back-room abortions the pro-choicers like to terrify us with images of??? Compare that to this story from my social work days: Illiterate, drug-addicted, pregnant mom of 4 children, all born addicted to crack. Now pregnant again. NO interest in an abortion. Great deal of interest in the additional SSI check her baby would bring as the child of a legally blind father. Doesn't want him going to foster care (no check then) if he's born positive for drugs, so she tries to take herbal teas to induce labor to give birth to her premature, crack-addicted baby at home so his blood won't be tested for drugs. Both end up in ER and baby almost dies.

Pretty horrific crap happens. And it's horrible. But it's also no reason to legally JUSTIFY the stupid crap people do, whether that means a back-room abortion or the scenario above.

I think there are less abortions because the increased use in ultrasounds. My husband was pro choice because the women in his life were. The first time he saw our son's heartbeat at 6 weeks changed his mind, as well as many other people I showed my ultrasound pic to.They had no idea a baby looked so much like a baby in urteto .

To FeddieChick: Check Isaiah 43:7; 44:24; 49: 1,5 and Jeremiah 1:5.