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‘Demons in the Dark’

How scientists talk about UFO sightings.

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  • Posted By: C_Liz_B @ 01/25/2008 12:07:53 PM

    Want to see how many religious fanatics we can tick off all at once?

    Ever wonder why it was only in biblical times that angels presented themselves and spoke with humans? Maybe those angels were really aliens. And what they said to these humans actually set the path for our organized religions. Now these sightings are just them coming back in their ships to observe the advancement of their "experiment".

    Any one person can come up with a number of explainations and put them into print for all to read. I for one believe in life beyond our plant. I also believe in God. Even though I have yet to see EITHER of these entities with my OWN eyes, that doesn't mean that they do not exist. It is only because I choose to not be so narrow minded as to only believe what is ONLY SEEN by me. All anyone can really do is take in all that is claimed to be seen (not proven) and make their own assessment. I know what I believe, it doesn't mean I must force others to believe it as well. To each their own. Take from this what you will.

    • Posted By: carlosg @ 11/18/2008 9:05:32 AM

      excellent my friend.you summed it up perfecly.good man.

      • Posted By: Vanamali @ 03/28/2009 8:15:25 PM

        Back in time in some areas when the white man stepped off the boat the natives mistook them for gods, something similar might have happened that gave rise to Christianity. god in the image of man? Why would god have the need for a mouth, or ears or eyes? Does he need feet to walk the heavens? Does he need hands to hold something? Does he eat? He has male genetalia and he is having sex with whom? This does not make any sense. Obviously we have this shape because we live on this earth. Could it be that the ???god??? that the bible was talking about was actually an alien from another planet, a planet similar to ours so he looks like us? Are we no better than those natives who mistook a white man for god?

  • Posted By: srbankhead @ 01/20/2008 10:36:35 AM

    It never ceases to AMAZE me what people will do to BELIEVE that others have not seen what they HAVE SEEN! Those who discredit the MASSES are deranged! I invite them to see for themselves the hundreds of videos and photos FROM AROUND THE WORLD on the internet and the review the THOUSANDS of DOCUMENTS from CREDIBLE people throughout the world. In fact, I Googled UFO videos and was speechless watching them. One video, in particular, was taken in Haiti and is on YouTube. This video is, without a doubt, the MOST COMPELLING video of multiple UFO's UP CLOSE. It took my breath away. Only LUNATICS disbelieve what they themselves cannot explain. Perhaps those who discredit eyewitnesses to extraordinary things (which have occurred throughout history) can explain the 'imagined" existence and/or creation of the Universe. Because they can't or won't consider that which even the most brilliant HUMAN minds cannot comprehend, they belittle those who are REAL. Yes, I OWN physics cannot explain the movements of UFO's. But then again, who can say what applies here applies everywhere in the Cosmos? That's just a very limited mind -- And a very limited mind wrote the article.

    • Posted By: carlosg @ 11/18/2008 11:45:52 AM

      Enter Your Commentthe haiti ufo was proven a fake.but there are ones that are defanately not fake my friend.

  • Posted By: UFO2001 @ 01/25/2008 11:57:56 PM


    cOMMENT:: With all the sightings of UFO s and the scientist trying to explain that these are just the mind projecting images . One has just to look at the vastness of the Universe and ask one self "are we alone?". Can science explain everything or are we being humburg by these scientific minds that ordinary responsible people are creating visions of UFO sightings and that too collective sightings. It is high time the scientific minds start to look at the possibilities of such events. It is foolhardy to debund such sightings , look into the events with clarity and facts rather then with pre- made opinions . Only through time , shall the truth of such sightings be made known as factual or figmentation of one's imaginations.

    • Posted By: carlosg @ 11/17/2008 6:14:42 PM

      they are already.a small mount of peope dont want us to know,that is for certain my friend

  • Posted By: carlosg @ 11/17/2008 5:52:49 PM

    i have never seen ufos in our sky but i believe there is advanced craft hovering about showing incredible capabilities.these craft have been spotted for over 80 years.they are even in paintings from two hundred years ago and much more.they also have been painted in cave walls going back thousands of years.some debate they are human but we did not have that capability in the 60s never mind the 20s.so it is simple for me,they are definately not human so where does that leave you on this subject.for me to believe this is not just what i have said.i have done alot of research on this subject and came to the belief that they are defenately et:s.i believe man created god for peace in life and especially death.it would be much easier for me to believe in god.i have been told i need faith from many god fearing people.well for me to not just believe in et:s but know.i surely have faith dont i.but the evidence is there .look for it and you will find it,you will also need a bit of faith as it is a giant leap.the chances of life beng out ther is massive.not only is it out there it has been visiting earth for whatever reasons.ther are many reasons why an advanced specie would visit us.it is a known fact if human beins had the technology to travel space and came across a primitive species we woud stand back and observe..the one thing i would like to know is why these ufos want to be seen.we have seen them in our atmosphere our sky and even captured them in space.this is a known fact.

  • Posted By: creptylou @ 03/18/2008 9:59:28 PM

    yes , you should check out the disclosure project video , there are credible people who are talking about it.
    The mainstream media is afraid to touch that stuff ,they are afraid.
    And in fact, they are pretty brave to come forward, but its a pretty big deal.
    Conversely , we will always have our bills to pay and have lives that will go unchanged by this new
    information.

    • Posted By: carlosg @ 11/17/2008 1:15:30 PM

      yes i agree with you.if you do proper research into ufos you will find ufos have been hovering about our sky for centuries,if not more.i think the people coming forward now is great.we have people from our armed forces telling what they know,very brave considering the ridicule that goes with it.but ordinary people have done this to and were not believed by the general public.now we have some major people coming forward.the public must start to question what these people have to gane by disclosing this?nothing i tell tou.me personally hve never seen ufos in our sky but i know that this is true.i dont believe because i want to,it is because the evidence is there for anyone to see.you just have to look for it.great britain has now began to release ufo documentation as are other countrys.i would be happy to see the united states do the same in my lifetime.the truth is slowly but surely coming out.the question is what will it be? i alredy know we have been visited.will we get the full truth or just asmall layer of it?

      • Posted By: carlosg @ 11/17/2008 5:24:50 PM

        Enter Your Commentyes carlos.i couldnt agree with tou more

  • Posted By: lcondray @ 01/26/2008 12:36:46 AM

    Whether or not we choose to believe has no effect upon God's existence. He either exists or does not exist. People choose to believe many things that have no proof. Sure, there is a degree of faith involved, but it takes faith to believe that God does not exist - to believe in evolution takes an enormous degree of faith. So much of Science is taking bits of proof and adding human conjecture. I have a question for you- what if by some small chance you are wrong and there is a God?

    • Posted By: Airflyer @ 01/26/2008 12:40:28 AM

      Sorry I rather believe in Odin at least he knows how to party

      • Posted By: carlosg @ 11/17/2008 5:20:39 PM

        Enter Your Commenti would tell him im deaply sorry and where cuould i get some hash

  • Posted By: alfiecruz05 @ 01/26/2008 12:50:49 AM

    im not a believer of UFO's their just an imagination of the past people. some of them throwing a round object in the sky and so there is a UFO.
    hehe how stupid isn't it? .just believe in jesus christ our lord and savior and for everything elses. coz god is magnificent!!!

    • Posted By: carlosg @ 11/17/2008 5:16:40 PM

      ther is more evidence of ufos than there is of god.infact there is no evidence of god at all.man created god to give himself peace in life and death.the fact is they only peace is the peace yu can create on earth.

  • Posted By: crazy007 @ 03/27/2008 8:57:59 PM

    http://www.americanantigravity.com/documents/military-research/Project-Winterhaven.pdf

  • Posted By: crazy007 @ 03/27/2008 8:52:37 PM

    Hey Creptylou,

    If this document has any validity, what do you think about it. Who knows, maybe it a deception point too.

    Personally, reading it makes me think someone knew something for a period of time before this investigation. This could help explain Roswell (47) and the recent sighting. I think it's quite possible "they" shipped a bunch of nazi's who had stolen tesla's ideas, shipped them to Russia, north/south america to continue their work. Just a possibility. Watch curious george, the cartoon (recent one). Watch the guy swallow the flourescent yellow liquid and throw it up. Oh, these people are twisted. WHat are chemtrails (outside of weather modification applications) and how do they fit into this paradigm of control. Could the flourescent yellow cartoon piece really be analogy for one aspect - autoflourescence of distributed organisms in all of us - thus enabling 3-d imaging and manipulation. How's that for privacy violations - welcome to the sentient parallel world. Folks, work on weather mod, geophysical engineering, psychoenergetcs, and bioenergetics has benn going on for years. Just look at this Winterhaven piece, Bluebird, Artichoke, Naomi, Search - then get trippy with Project Rainbow the Philadelphia experiment. Think is goes on before that, I do -

  • Posted By: crazy007 @ 03/25/2008 2:15:51 AM

    Hey Crepty, You, and frank too, obviously have an agenda here. Wanna know about our friend persinger? check http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/persemf.htm

    It's all black, he's all blalck, and so are you. Seems all mapped out, nothing is a coincidence! It's no coincidence persinger is chosen to speak about "UFO", of all strange, crop circle like things to talk about. Let's all see how the circus plays out. Who's the circus masters, and what if the elephant gets out of control? Maybe that's part of the circus, and the show will go on. Mind Ops are real folks, maybe holographic tech, maybe antigravity, robotics that would probably make you go, "hun, boy, didn;t think it was quite this far along!" Bio and psychoenergetics that is likely farther along than most think. It's a sentient world, so it seems. Designed by whom, and for what reason?

  • Posted By: creptylou @ 03/19/2008 2:35:58 AM

    Sorry ,
    lack of clarity .
    'They', in the below reference,meaning, officers , or,technical persons in the employ of
    various companies.

  • Posted By: Frank Coronado @ 03/18/2008 9:44:21 PM

    Comment: Our government is big, but the people who work for our government are just people. They are people just like you and me. And just like you and me, our government employees would find it impossible NOT to talk about visitors from another world if they knew for a FACT that we HAD been visited by creature

    Why? Because they're just people.


    (ignore my previous post. I'm still trying to figure out how this %#&!}Comment: Our government is big, but the people who work for our government are just people. They are people just like you and me. And just like you and me, our government employees would find it impossible NOT to talk about visitors from another world if they knew for a FACT that we HAD been visited by creature

    Why? Because they're just people.

    (ignore my previous post. the last line got garbled in transmission.)

  • Posted By: Frank Coronado @ 03/18/2008 9:25:48 PM

    Our government is big, but the people who work for our government are just people. They are people just like you and me. And just like you and me, our government employees would find it impossible NOT to talk about visitors from another world if they knew for a FACT that we HAD been visited by creature

    Why? Because they're just people.s from another world.

  • Posted By: creptylou @ 03/17/2008 11:33:56 PM

    No, , seeing those things has ruined some peoples lives.
    There is a stigma attached to that and they are doubted and ridiculed.
    Also the difference between this whole ufo weirdness ,if you look at that disclosure video,
    there is some credible evidence that corroborated evidence has been supressed and treated under the
    umbrella of a security issue.
    I never used to believe our govt would do that , but I do now.
    Our govt is big and they're are some great people working in public service.
    it is a disservice to suggest otherwise.
    But the top secret stuff can encompass a wide category when its convenient.

    The thing that annoys me though is that people think its impossible that these things are from
    somewhere else.Our science changes everyday.

  • Posted By: Frank Coronado @ 03/16/2008 6:16:54 PM

    The number one reason why I don't belong to an "organized" religion is simple: I don't believe some people can "know" more about the "unknowable" than I do.

    I mean, duh, it's unknowable.

    I feel the same way about UFOs. Maybe they're out there and maybe they're not. But the current amount of physical evidence which supports the existence of UFOs is exactly equal to the current amount of physical evidence which supports the existence of God.

    So when it comes to people who say they've seen a UFO, maybe I'm skeptical or maybe I'm just jealous. I mean, catching a glimpse of either a real UFO or a real God would go a long way in improving my overall perception of life as we know it.

  • Posted By: creptylou @ 03/16/2008 4:49:59 PM

    You may be special anyway.
    I doubt that an unanticipated sighting by somebody mowing their lawn or something is a secret
    act of vanity , so they can feel 'special' by saying they've witnessed something rare.
    Though that special feeling may be a side effect, or there are some who fabricate probably.

  • Posted By: Frank Coronado @ 02/29/2008 7:14:16 PM

    Every so often I experience the creepy phenomenon known as "sleep paralysis." I start to wake up in the middle of the night and realize there are strangers inside my house. Sometimes I can see them walking from room to room, other times I can only hear them from a distance. Yet when I try to climb out of bed and confront these intruders, I can't move a muscle. And if I try to yell GET OUT my voice sounds like the croak of a frog.

    At some point I emerge from my paralyzed state and lay there with my heart pounding, still listening for telltale sounds of strangers in my house. It takes a while for me to calm down and convince myself that the whole episode took place inside my head.

    The "sleep paralysis" experience isn't just another bad dream or nightmare. It's a dozen times more realistic. The first time it happens to you, you literally get out of bed and search the house for "evidence" that what you saw and heard was real.

    The second time it happens, you go online and do a Google search for something like "paralyzed dreams." That produces a thousand websites which thoroughly discuss and analyze the physiological origins of sleep paralysis.

    You quickly learn that our brains have a built-in safety mechanism that paralyzes our bodies during sleep so we won't try to "act out" our dreams. Otherwise we'd literally be running and kicking and screaming in bed while we sleep.

    Sometimes, however, we simply start to wake up before our brains have completely turned off this subconscious "safety switch."

    And that can often result in the very real feeling that your house has been invaded by strangers.

    I was disappointed when I learned all these facts about sleep paralysis. Every time I start to think maybe I'm "special" in some way, it only takes one little Google search to prove that I'm not.


  • Posted By: creptylou @ 02/28/2008 4:29:15 PM

    The optimist in me agrees with that.
    Seeing the 'rock throwing' can put a drag on that optimism.

  • Posted By: Frank Coronado @ 02/26/2008 8:17:43 PM

    This world works. We can fix that.

  • Posted By: creptylou @ 02/26/2008 2:25:58 AM

    true.
    I like what that one guy said .....way down there.We cant get along with each other,
    what makes you think we're in 'a time of science'.

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