How scientists talk about UFO sightings.
Comment: http://www.americanantigravity.com/documents/military-research/Project-Winterhaven.pdf
Comment: Hey Creptylou,
If this document has any validity, what do you think about it. Who knows, maybe it a deception point too.
Personally, reading it makes me think someone knew something for a period of time before this investigation. This could help explain Roswell (47) and the recent sighting. I think it's quite possible "they" shipped a bunch of nazi's who had stolen tesla's ideas, shipped them to Russia, north/south america to continue their work. Just a possibility. Watch curious george, the cartoon (recent one). Watch the guy swallow the flourescent yellow liquid and throw it up. Oh, these people are twisted. WHat are chemtrails (outside of weather modification applications) and how do they fit into this paradigm of control. Could the flourescent yellow cartoon piece really be analogy for one aspect - autoflourescence of distributed organisms in all of us - thus enabling 3-d imaging and manipulation. How's that for privacy violations - welcome to the sentient parallel world. Folks, work on weather mod, geophysical engineering, psychoenergetcs, and bioenergetics has benn going on for years. Just look at this Winterhaven piece, Bluebird, Artichoke, Naomi, Search - then get trippy with Project Rainbow the Philadelphia experiment. Think is goes on before that, I do -
Comment: Hey Crepty, You, and frank too, obviously have an agenda here. Wanna know about our friend persinger? check http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/persemf.htm
It's all black, he's all blalck, and so are you. Seems all mapped out, nothing is a coincidence! It's no coincidence persinger is chosen to speak about "UFO", of all strange, crop circle like things to talk about. Let's all see how the circus plays out. Who's the circus masters, and what if the elephant gets out of control? Maybe that's part of the circus, and the show will go on. Mind Ops are real folks, maybe holographic tech, maybe antigravity, robotics that would probably make you go, "hun, boy, didn;t think it was quite this far along!" Bio and psychoenergetics that is likely farther along than most think. It's a sentient world, so it seems. Designed by whom, and for what reason?
Comment: Sorry ,
lack of clarity .
'They', in the below reference,meaning, officers , or,technical persons in the employ of
various companies.
Comment: yes , you should check out the disclosure project video , there are credible people who are talking about it.
The mainstream media is afraid to touch that stuff ,they are afraid.
And in fact, they are pretty brave to come forward, but its a pretty big deal.
Conversely , we will always have our bills to pay and have lives that will go unchanged by this new
information.
Comment: Comment: Our government is big, but the people who work for our government are just people. They are people just like you and me. And just like you and me, our government employees would find it impossible NOT to talk about visitors from another world if they knew for a FACT that we HAD been visited by creature
Why? Because they're just people.
(ignore my previous post. I'm still trying to figure out how this %#&!}Comment: Our government is big, but the people who work for our government are just people. They are people just like you and me. And just like you and me, our government employees would find it impossible NOT to talk about visitors from another world if they knew for a FACT that we HAD been visited by creature
Why? Because they're just people.
(ignore my previous post. the last line got garbled in transmission.)
Comment: Our government is big, but the people who work for our government are just people. They are people just like you and me. And just like you and me, our government employees would find it impossible NOT to talk about visitors from another world if they knew for a FACT that we HAD been visited by creature
Why? Because they're just people.s from another world.
Comment: No, , seeing those things has ruined some peoples lives.
There is a stigma attached to that and they are doubted and ridiculed.
Also the difference between this whole ufo weirdness ,if you look at that disclosure video,
there is some credible evidence that corroborated evidence has been supressed and treated under the
umbrella of a security issue.
I never used to believe our govt would do that , but I do now.
Our govt is big and they're are some great people working in public service.
it is a disservice to suggest otherwise.
But the top secret stuff can encompass a wide category when its convenient.
The thing that annoys me though is that people think its impossible that these things are from
somewhere else.Our science changes everyday.
Comment: The number one reason why I don't belong to an "organized" religion is simple: I don't believe some people can "know" more about the "unknowable" than I do.
I mean, duh, it's unknowable.
I feel the same way about UFOs. Maybe they're out there and maybe they're not. But the current amount of physical evidence which supports the existence of UFOs is exactly equal to the current amount of physical evidence which supports the existence of God.
So when it comes to people who say they've seen a UFO, maybe I'm skeptical or maybe I'm just jealous. I mean, catching a glimpse of either a real UFO or a real God would go a long way in improving my overall perception of life as we know it.
Comment: You may be special anyway.
I doubt that an unanticipated sighting by somebody mowing their lawn or something is a secret
act of vanity , so they can feel 'special' by saying they've witnessed something rare.
Though that special feeling may be a side effect, or there are some who fabricate probably.
Comment: Every so often I experience the creepy phenomenon known as "sleep paralysis." I start to wake up in the middle of the night and realize there are strangers inside my house. Sometimes I can see them walking from room to room, other times I can only hear them from a distance. Yet when I try to climb out of bed and confront these intruders, I can't move a muscle. And if I try to yell GET OUT my voice sounds like the croak of a frog.
At some point I emerge from my paralyzed state and lay there with my heart pounding, still listening for telltale sounds of strangers in my house. It takes a while for me to calm down and convince myself that the whole episode took place inside my head.
The "sleep paralysis" experience isn't just another bad dream or nightmare. It's a dozen times more realistic. The first time it happens to you, you literally get out of bed and search the house for "evidence" that what you saw and heard was real.
The second time it happens, you go online and do a Google search for something like "paralyzed dreams." That produces a thousand websites which thoroughly discuss and analyze the physiological origins of sleep paralysis.
You quickly learn that our brains have a built-in safety mechanism that paralyzes our bodies during sleep so we won't try to "act out" our dreams. Otherwise we'd literally be running and kicking and screaming in bed while we sleep.
Sometimes, however, we simply start to wake up before our brains have completely turned off this subconscious "safety switch."
And that can often result in the very real feeling that your house has been invaded by strangers.
I was disappointed when I learned all these facts about sleep paralysis. Every time I start to think maybe I'm "special" in some way, it only takes one little Google search to prove that I'm not.
Comment: The optimist in me agrees with that.
Seeing the 'rock throwing' can put a drag on that optimism.
Comment: This world works. We can fix that.
Comment: true.
I like what that one guy said .....way down there.We cant get along with each other,
what makes you think we're in 'a time of science'.
Comment: What is normal? What is well-adjusted?
THAT, creptylou, is the question.
Is mental health a matter of being "well-adjusted" to a sick society?
Religion views reality as a history already written, while science views reality as a mystery in need of unfolding.
Which side is right? Who the hell cares? Both sides act like little kids throwing rocks at one another in a grammar school playground.
We're so busy throwing rocks at one another we'll never even notice when the first actual UFO lands on this planet.
Comment: That was my whole initial point in submitting something regarding this article.
There is a range of 'normal' behavior.
Many psychological tests pertain to a range of categories normal and abnormal.
It would seem that hallucination is not the norm.Is this clinically a fact?
What they are suggesting.Hogwash.
This article has the tone of "patting us on the backs condescendingly and saying "this is what
all this REALLY is" This is Intellectually disingenuous.
Eyes do funny things to images,but ive never seen a spaceship the size of a football field.
I would be surprised if someone saw such a thing, not just because it is unusual.
But weve also been told that for that big ship to exist is 'abnormal'.
So, then , they throw it back on the viewer that it then must be some kind of projection or
flawed perception.
Yes some people have misperceived things or even 'projected' them .It seems neither intuitive
or scientific to presume that is the norm.
The "people see what they want to see" argument as it pertains to phlisophies(people believing what
they wish or seeing what they wish.That inclination to behave in such a way will always be around.
Most people 'retrofit' their beliefs , engraved in stone, with the outside world(those belief systems that
conform to what they already think that they know) , whose
minds are not interested in being changed.
But the "people see what they want to see" rationale has become the mantra of the skeptics who
are malignantly and polemically set in their ways.
Comment: Plenty of sincere, respectable people have reported seeing things they honestly can't explain. And plenty of people have perpetrated hoaxes and faked a lot of photographs just to get themselves a little attention.
The latter group obviously makes it harder for the former group to be taken seriously.
As for me, I belong to the middle group: I''ve honestly seen a lot of things I EXPECTED to see. Years ago I was part of a mountain climbing team that got separated during our descent by a snowstorm. My half of the team reached the base of the mountain as the storm was lifting. We spent the next hour with our eyes glued to the upper slopes, anxious to spot the other half of our team. During that time I literally saw rocks move. Through my binoculars I could see dark objects in the snow which were roughly the size and shape of people. And the more I watched those objects, the more they seemed to be MOVING down the slope. For several minutes I was absolutely certain those rocks were our teammates.
Of course that's an extreme example of the phenomenon. On a regular basis my brain temporarily "morphs" an object into something it isn''t. When I'm speeding on the freeway my brain tends to convert all kinds of approaching vehicles into a highway patrol cruiser.
My point is this: I'm sure that plenty of people have seen inexplicable things that are probably real. And there's no question that plenty of people have pretended to see things that aren't real at all. So where does that leave the rest of us? Trying to squeeze our experiences into a size and shape that matches our preconceived notions of reality?
Comment: creptylou:
Like you, I don???t blog a lot. But the Stephenville incident caught my eye because it was reported by a number of mainstream news sources like Newsweek magazine.
I???ve tried to make my posts on this site stir up some new questions and arguments about UFOs.
So far it hasn???t worked. So far it???s been like challenging people???s ideas about politics and religion. People already know what they WANT to know, and they resent my intrusion into their own cozy little concept of reality.
Comment: believe it or not, I m not typically a blogger.
I assumed that(blogging) meant a lot of obligatory rage and illiteracy.
I am not a conspiracy theorist or an antidisestablishmentarianist, ... either.
How's that for pedantry?
But it looks like this blog is dead?
I just wanted to add this note, however.
it appears that our air force wants a lot of money to take care of its "aging" members and
lobbies for this ,as a special interest group lobbies for a grants.
This according to recent news reports.
But .. of course with special consideration as our nation's defenders.
The joke associating the term PC meaning "priviledged charachter' comes to mind with
the military community term for a grunt who thought he was special.
The military community ,this hypothetical privileged charachter ..they had 'set his mind right'
and made him one of the flock straight away.
Setting him straight on any such illusions,
I dont recall the joke , actually but t recall the term PC.
The air force wants a lot of money now according to press releases that say their
aging population and current employees want to be taken care of, financially.
The taxpayer truly has paid for the truth., in taxes,... on issues of former secrecy, that are now
, and should be , public knowledge.
There is information pertaining to UFO's , and what the public
is entitled to know given the fact that we are paying their salaries and retirement,..the details of these matters should be disclosed.
Then... the 'invisible to the common public' special interest military grants can continue as usual.
Any perceived ,dissenting scrutiny of this statement , that has been uttered, by myself or others in the same tone ,if it is in a blanket and general way dismissed as anti-establishment rhetoric , that criticism should be looked upon suspiciously.
Meaning... that we deserve to get what we pay for as the citizenry of our country.
If we want to open a can of worms(regarding secrecy which we have funded as taxpayers), that is our prerogative...
People born into physical infirmity by deformity are not entitled to a pension.
They cannot "sue god'.
My sympathy goes out to those who have been injured in battle, but... at least they are
compensated for in a way that exceeds the many with congenital deformities or non-military injuries,
who try to give something back to their environment every day but are not recognized., monetarily or personally..
Our country is behind in being forthcoming with information that has been documented secretly at our
expense.
Cats our of the bag folks.
Love our armed forces and their stealth , but, we cannot afford secretive elitism.
As a country based on ethics , or a country who pays individuals to keep us safe, we do not want to be
disappointed with a 'scam' and no payoff.
,,..scrutiny by
Comment: How would I begin to guess what they are thinking?
It is interesting to me that the first reflex is to devalue ourselves as mere knaves when there
realization that there is a more advanced, other civilization.
The appearance of them ,studying us would suggest the goldfish bowl description.
But if they are so smart why have they apparently been here as long as we have in their
little aerial go carts?
But they could also be participating in our lives in some way that weve not detected.
They may even be protecting us from something worse than some unfortunate things that happen to us here.
So,
our concept of religion could be unchanged by a visitation, it could be 'ruined' also.
It could be modified, it could also be greatly heightened, in scope of understanding or lack of
ambiguity of Gods existence.It could remove any doubt of a 'spiritual plane'.
No according to what is still only 'folklore' but I think some of those witnesses are telling the truth,
those 'entities' are mortal.Again for the sake of argument , if these entities had died in ufo crashes
then they are mortal.
Existence of other beings does not preclude or negate a spiritual belief system.
They could be quite spiritual.
The mistake is to equate them as being synonymous with a religious entity.
What if they created us? Would that make them God , historically, or factually?
Even if the bible is literal with its mythological imagery,..other writings transcend mere description of phenomena and describe a spiritual universe..
Perhaps they have a God to whom they pray.
There will be the "technocrats" and the vitriolic atheists, who want us all to embrace the smug and
sober, "scientific revelation of the month" that too cleverly negates with a fail swoop all the
value of positivity and hope ,..and the civilization that was produced by those drives that pushed us forward.
Their viewpoints as do many in this Newsweek article, become, almost, summarily obsolete.
Should any of this ufo stuff be even more in the public eye there will be a lot of people who
will use their existence to buffet up their own belief system ...as an 'I told you so' for the doomsdayers,
as a "second coming" for the religious zealots, an opportunity for more self-flagellation for the guilt ridden.
The list goes on.
Comment: creptylou:
You still haven't answered my question.
Are we merely fish to alien observers?
Will the arrival of aliens ruin all our concepts of religion?
Will we be glad when all our concepts of religion have been ruined?
Comment: By the way I was not calling your comment stupid, .. not at all.. what do I know..
I was just being honest regardless as to whether it sounded stupid , or not.
Comment: easy Frank, and....Easy...Frank...
Go' think tank' and not be afraid of being criticized for being stupid , here goes on my part.
A)They created us?Horrifying to some but....(silly but what do we know)
B)So what 'they' according to now .more fully disclosed folklore ,with top secret guys,they can die in ufo accidents, they're mortal.
C)this doesnt mean there isnt a God. That is another level of stuff we dont get.
d)No, were not stupid or evil , or fatally flawed, or self hating , that has nothing to do with it.
e)There are unforseen social consequences of those who are afraid of the reality of other entities,
which could cause unrest so disclosure of any knowledge of such things is not aggressively sought..
F)They do not want to broach the protocol for introducing themselves and because of our elaborate
defense system this gives them mixed signals.
G)They HAVE, communicated with members of our culture but it has been kept covert,
H)They are on some kind of alert to watch for patterns of toxification of our environment,because there
is some undisclosed affiliation with ourselves and them.
I)The outlook that, we can better ourselves ,and our quality of life ,may not be misguided and as much
victim to cynicism and futility as we might think.
We've only had electricity for 100 years give or take... come on?
j)They hate us or are at best indifferent, whether we are an experiment of theirs or not
we might be expendable.
K)I doubt that, if they wanted us to suffer , and they think that way they could have done that ,
probably.
L)They dont think in a way that relates fully to any of the above concepts at all
M)Maybe they care if we perish because there is 'good and bad',, but the other philosophies of life which we are used to are not
remotely abided by.
0)could be anything, Ive never seen a ufo , but the case stories are piling up.
p)Im a little skeptical of all these NASA claims , suddenly about 'finding life' ,when there may
be a little hanky panky regarding full forthcomingness on the part of what has been witnessed
by that organization that should FULLY subject to scientific analysis with the objective of
definitive conclusion regarding aerial anomalies.Sounds like they are trying to beat the clock to
public scrutiny.
Comment: Okay, homey1cannoby suggests an advanced civilization might be observing us like fish in a fishbowl, while creptylou raises the issue of how two interstellar species might be prone to mis-communication..
I think both of these comments are valid topics for debate, but I also think they bring us back to my original question: Why would a really smart life-form travel a hundred trillion miles through space to observe and/or establish communication with fish?
Comment: If you have as much time on your hands as I obviously do then go to this site: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/cropcircle.htm
Comment: It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a bird cage! http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2022.html?theme=light
Comment: Lucy Pringle part 2. Try duplicating this in your backyard during the wee hours: http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/articles/crabwood/ . If you have difficult time copying this URL simply highlight it, right click, copy then paste into you address bar above.
Comment: I find the whole subject very entertaining and even if it's all a wash which I doubt, it is still worth the time to research. The only problem is that over the years of digging for the truth we are ending up with a good case of analysis paralysis we're going in circles. Thinking of that I'm reminded of Lucy Pringle who has taken it upon herself to document crop circles in England and if you haven't already I suggest visiting her sight at http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/. It's well worth the time spent.
Comment: Even the parameters of protocol that we apply in terms of figuring out why they aren't 'communnicating'
may not apply , that style of diplomatic etiquette is an outgrowth of diplomacy amongst ourselves.Not between
us and an alien culture.(they might be trying anyway)But they might just be observing.
Also ,there is a safety factor in both sides not taking action.
Like Reagan with the russians ,except the mantra there was ,,"keep talking" to stave off
any military consequences.In this instance if we dont engage , then we don't
have to enter into any kind of uforseen,political transaction.I am not talking about conflict necessarily , per se,
either,other unbeknown responsibilities that might come with that territory.
Probably there ARE rules of procedure regarding such hypothetical interfacing of
.to put it mildly different cultures on the part of .........the space invaders...
Comment: We are like fish in a fishbowl to them
Comment: They are not ignoring. We are like fish in a fishbowl to them.
Comment: Astronomers say there are 300 billion stars in our galaxy alone. They further estimate that 30 billion of these stars are similar to our own Sun. I mean, seriously. The odds that we humans are the only intelligent life form in the universe is a statistical impossibility.
I don't think the question is "are they out there?" I think the question is "why are they ignoring us?"
Could it be they're ignoring us because, at this point, we have nothing to offer? Our Sun is a billion years younger than the average star in our little corner of the Milky Way. That makes our solar system a "newborn baby" by local standards.
So picture yourself as a galactic explorer on a mission to gather facts and figures and cultural insights. Who would you visit first? The adults or the newborn babies?
p.s. - my previous comment is redundant because I forgot to "adapt" it to the peculiarities of this website, which I'm sure Farxad can relate to now that he's seen all the ???s in his post.
Comment: Astronomers say there are 300 billion stars in our galaxy alone. They also estimate that 30 billion of these stars are similar to our own Sun. I mean, seriously. The odds of we humans being the only intelligent life form in ALL the universe is a statistical impossibility.
I don???t think the question is ???are they out there???? I think the question is ???why are they ignoring us????
Could it be they???re ignoring us because we have nothing to offer? Our Sun is a billion years younger than the average star in our little corner of the Milky Way. That makes our solar system a ???newborn baby??? by local standards.
So if you???re tooling around the galaxy gathering facts and figures and cultural anecdotes, who would you interview first? The adults or the newborn babies?
Comment: Hundreds of years ago people believed in demons and angels and so on, but that???s because they couldn???t explain a lot of things that were happening. Now we made a lot of progress in all kinds of sciences, which helped us to explain things that seemed weird in the past.
If we will talk about intergalactic travels, how do we know that it???s impossible, if we still can???t figure out how to fight cancer and many other sicknesses, and we are talking about coming out with some different types of energy or some new technology that will make space travels possible?
What really doesn???t make sense is: how is it even possible that we are alone in our huge galaxy, and I???m not talking about the other ones. Why is something similar not possible on some other planet?
Yes, maybe we are seeing things under some magnetic stimulation, but we were able to go to space and now are planning on landing on Mars.
Comment: Hundreds of years ago people believed in demons and angels and so on, but that???s because they couldn???t explain a lot of things that were happening. Now we made a lot of progress in all kinds of sciences, which helped us to explain things that seemed weird in the past.
If we will talk about intergalactic travels, how do we know that it???s impossible, if we still can???t figure out how to fight cancer and many other sicknesses, and we are talking about coming out with some different types of energy or some new technology that will make space travels possible?
What really doesn???t make sense is: how is it even possible that we are alone in our huge galaxy, and I???m not talking about the other ones. Why is something similar not possible on some other planet?
Yes, maybe we are seeing things under some magnetic stimulation, but we were able to go to space and now are planning on landing on Mars.
Comment: UFO's are real when you look at the evidence. One might pose, what evidence? The evidence is why would people for ages have descibed them? what would benefit for example hundreds of people involved with Roswell.
It is obvious that the government is not keeping a secret. In fact, if you pay attention the government is telling us they exist. Just because the President has not come on television at 9pm and addressed the world that they exist does not mean that basically the government is admitting they exist.
There are hundreds of well known and substantiated cases. The Belgian incident involving 10,000 witnesses,the Phoenix lights (hundreds...maybe thousands of credible witnesses),Roswell--in which well known figures have come forth saying it what was a UFO crash ( LT. COL. Philip Corso (RET.), Russian citizens finding a crashed UFO after its own government shot it down, and I could go on.
The problem is we do not understand how teleporting may work with a magnetic , laser technology, or some other combination of propulsion. To us it seems impossible. But we are the same people who thought the Earth was flat.
Keeping walking monkeys....one day you may stand erect.
Comment: When it comes to UFOs, the term I have trouble with is "government conspiracy." I've been a member of the Armed Forces and worked as a civilian for the federal government. In my humble opinion, I don't think our government is capable of concealing an event as pivotal as extraterrestrial contact.
Could the military occasionally be manipulating UFO media coverage just to deflect public attention from some classified SNAFU? You bet. But that's pretty mundane stuff compared to hiding the biggest secret of all time from 300 million American citizens.
Let's face it, the U.S. government is primarily a political body comprised of flawed and fallible people like you and me. The various branches and agencies constantly compete for more funding, more personnel, more clout in general. As with all large organizations our government, at any given time and any given level, has its share of disgruntled employees and burned-out executives. Does this sound like a scenario where you could keep a tight, permanent lid on the biggest secret of all time?
And here's another question: Why would an advanced civilization choose to contact politicians in the first place? Consider the fact that once Klaatu got a taste of our political bureaucracy, he decided to snub Harry Truman altogether and walked over to Professor Barnhardt's house instead.
Comment: No, that reminds me of a cartoon, in my head, I don't know if I remember it or made it up...,they(whomever the flying fellows are, in the
little static electric metal tea cups) Cartoon...SETI is set up with elaborate gear and there is a tiny entity tapping
a headphone wearing guy(SETI guy) on the shoulder, he shushes it away and says 'wait Im trying to listen'.
Is that the kind of malignant myopia that pervades the science world? Probably not , but
id love to hear one guy say that the concepts that we grasp are outgrowth of the schematic
of the way we think.We are comfortable with those modalities.Anyway that conversation could
go on forever...but there might be other 'modalities'that are not us or the way we think.
There is evidence from some of these military that some 'contact' has in rare cases been made, has
been information that
has been lets say ..not fully shared with those who put their seal of credibility on such information.
I never believed in conspiracies but secrecy is an self-empowered right, constitutionally when
that secrecy falls within the elastic boundaries of national security, to invoke secrecy.
Again,we've used our senses for thousands of years to survive.If we were in times
when whe didnt know what a meteorite was and one went by , ....
we still would have seen it, recorded it , corroborated it with other sighted persons..yes?
We are bad at telling the future but the science fiction stuff , much of which has come true,
we still are skeptical and disbelieving of some things and cull and cherry pick what we
choose is comfortable for us to believe, in those stories of fiction ,as we do cherry pick, in the world of fact.
Also, the term "believing in UFOs" must have come from some hyperbolic Sci-FI pulp Mag from the 50's
that capitlizes on peoples hysteria.
Its a term that is used,condescendingly to equate , again.'The need to believe' theory and
almost synonymously use the term interchangeably with 'believe in God' or believe in Boogie men.
Its not a faith issue.
Except faith in ones own common sense ability to asses what is anomalous and in front of ones own
eyes.
Comment: As neither a believer or non-believer in UFOs, I'm never the less always struck by the arrogance within the scientific community as displayed by the comment that intergalactic space travel is nearly impossible according to simple physics. If there is anything the scientific community can be certain about it is that statements such as that, when looked back upon from future generations seem ignorant.
Comment: It seems like the debate between UFO believers and skeptics often ends in the same old stalemate: ???Look at the thousands of credible witnesses,??? versus ???Show me just one scrap of hard evidence.???
I think Mr. Euchner is touching on too many topics for an article this brief, but I still appreciate any effort to cast the UFO controversy in a different light.
Fifty years after Columbus landed in the Bahamas, a Spanish conquistador was the first European to stumble upon Arizona???s Grand Canyon. He wrote in his journal that the canyon was so remote he would probably be the first and last white man to ever see it.
Humans, in my opinion, invariably suck when it comes to predicting the future. They sucked four-hundred years ago when technology was trying to build a better musket, and they suck today as technology tinkers with the human genome.
Given the fact that no extraterrestrial race has so far chosen to communicate with us on any level we understand, I???m obliged to presume such an event lies in the future.
And given our historical lack of talent for anticipating future events, I can???t help feeling our first ???close encounter??? of ANY kind will arrive in a form we never saw coming.
Comment: oh, you might want to check out Jim Sanborn and his sculptures: Cryptos, Antipodes, and Cyrillic. What book jacket had symbols on it, and where did they come from? We're waiting for his next book. While surely not of Bourne Ultimatum drama and violence, some peoples lives do reflect similar journey's. Read his books. It's the 70's Christmas symbology, so twisted, twisted, twisted.
Comment: creptylou: What's your phone number? I'd like to chat? LOL. Think Tesla, Von Nueman, Phoenix, Nazi's, Dulles, Eisenhower was a mouthpiece for the power holders, MK Ultra, Mockingbird, Montauk, and well persinger, among many, many, many others, maybe even your neighbor, parent, or friend. It's either all us or us and them. Period. None of this would be happening without the powers that be knowing. Absolutely impossible. As far as modern history and technology goes, I personally think there is a high degree of likelihood that this stuff goes back to Teddy Roosevelt. Anyone have insight into TEDdy's connection to Tesla?. Remember, Tesla was in Colorado Springs in the few years preceeding Teddy's presidency. This was when Tesla made his first speculative insights into gravity and longitudinal electromagnetic waves (as the obscured history tells it). It's fairly clear that when Tesla died on January 7, 1943 (imprtant date) the FBI was jonny on the spot to gather his most important papers and lock them up in the caverns of a deep "black" hole in the ground. As it's told, by 1939 Tesla had, what he thought, was a working theory of the fundamentals of gravity. Hey, when you hold two magnets near each other, which wins. Is it that the force of gravity pulls you and the magnets like a pancake against the earth's crust? Or, is it that the magnets snap together when close enough to one another while you stand erect. Oh betty and Barney, where are you now? Tesla, what did you do? Darkness, imprisoning me _ just a take from an old metallica song. The one's you really want to listen to are Ride the Lightening, Master of Puppets, Fade to Black, God That Failed, and of course "4" Horsemen. Purge the world of belief, oh please do, let us all purge the world of belief. Belief amounts to misinformed speculation arising from lack of critical thought (or insufficient valid evidence)alligned with emotional processes = wishing or fearful thinking and feeling. Imagine if we all believed nothing, how much better a place the world would be. We could all then heartfully engage in embracing one another for simply what we are; thinking/feeling creatures. How's my spelling? Nuff said.
Comment: Yes , once you dispense with the 'sole civilization' presumption which is totally anecdotal at this point,
it would be fatuous to rule the existence of other life elsewhere, we could be nearly as common
as galaxies themselves , our own little corner of the universe , just being a' city block.'
(Even the presumption that we are the only planet with water was total hypothesis.)
Weve used our senses for many years to ascertain our environment,
Our assessing a metal craft that is flying in the air as being not one of ours, were probably right about that.
Military tests weird stuff sure , its not my first guess that they would be joy riding over populated
areas, 'cowboys' though some test pilots may be.. i really doubt that.
That would fly in the face of their billion dollar secrecy budgets for development, with the understanding
that those things are kept secret.
Comment: Since this was characterized as a scientific commentary, I'd think there are enough credible and otherwise unexplainable phenomenon to lend credence to them being "not from this earth". Looking at the universe we live in, it would be similarly reasonable to assume that there are other intelligent life forms, quite likely many of which are far more advanced than us.
If these are reasonable assumptions, then "visitations" are not out of the question. I've always wondered why the big secret regarding UFOs by the government. Then I realized that any UFO visitations would invariably involve time travel. With the time paradox and concerns of affecting the future, I can see why these visitors (if that is what some of these are) would guard against becoming know.
Who knows, its certainly possible that some UFOs are actually visitors from distant planets. If there are more advanced cultures, it's quite credible they'd be interested in our development.
Comment: 1. The former Governor of Arizona, Fife Symington, held a press conference that included a dozen other military and government witnesses who testified to encounters with very large (on the scale of a mile-long) objects that were visually observed, chased by fighter jets, and recorded on radar. Governor Symington's exact words regarding the Phoenix LIghts event in 1997 was that his investigation led him to believe 'some form of an alien spacecraft' was flying over Phoenix that night. See: freedomofinfo.org
2. The British Ministry of Defence (MoD) denied for 50 years they had a UFO research desk. Then, early last year, they admitted to the existence of the organization, called DI55. Nick Pope, the head of that organization. has held several press interviews over the past year indicating that a volume of 50-year secret UFO files will be released this spring (e.g. March 2008). He indicates that people will be very surprised and taken aback as to what is in those files.
3. If the military supposedly "can't keep secrets", then how in the world would the military keep a MILE-LONG experimental aircraft secret, that can fly at tremendous acceleration and speed? The more likely scenario is that these are NOT secret aircraft that employ technology that humans have never been known to achieve (by a LONG stretch). It is much more likely the military scrambled fighter jets to intercept the objects over Texas. It is much more likely that the military can't keep secrets, and it DOESN'T know what these things are (just like the public). The only secret the military is keeping is that they don't want to admit they can't catch-up-to, control, or otherwise protect the nation from whatever these objects are.
Comment: Ug, I was not going to read it because I knew it was going to be tripe. But I went ahead and read it because all perspectives theoretically should be observed, and found this beauty:
"The mirror image of the belief in UFOs is disbelief in historic events, like the moon landing."
Just kill me. Why do people write about things that they know nothing about? Why do they make conjecture like this based on zero knowledge or evidence other than decisions they have made in their minds? I do realize this happens on all sides of the discussion, but in a magazine of this status?
I suppose they don't know what they don't know, but it amazes me that people without a clue are given "positions of wisdom". Obviously this person believes what he was told to believe and he feels damn good about it because now he's teaching us the same.
Well after reading that article, I felt one thing: disgust.
Comment: Ug, I was not going to read it because I knew it was going to be tripe. But I went ahead and read it because all perspectives theoretically should be observed, and found this beauty:
"The mirror image of the belief in UFOs is disbelief in historic events, like the moon landing."
Just kill me. Why do people write about things that they know nothing about? Why do they make conjecture like this based on zero knowledge or evidence other than decisions they have made in their minds? I do realize this happens on all sides of the discussion, but in a magazine of this status?
I suppose they don't know what they don't know, but it amazes me that people without a clue are given "positions of wisdom". Obviously this person believes what he was told to believe and he feels damn good about it because now he's teaching us the same.
Well after reading that article, I felt one thing: disgust.
Comment: This article is an insult to the intelligence of the citizenry. Dr. Richard Haines (once NASA's Chief Scientist for Space and Human Factors) has collected 3000 officially documented pilot sightings cases available at www.narcap.org. Many include near misses with so-called UFOs which made hair-pin turns that our current understanding of physics dictates are impossible----as well as Electromagnetic effects experienced by airplane equipment when near these craft. I guess the pilots were busy trying to construct a new mythology. Can't newsweek get someone with more competence to do a thorough analysis?
Comment: this is fun.I never really believed these things (ufos) existed until I got past
the goofball stuff . I then ,oddly on of all issues, came to the (hopefully not too wacky of a conclusion)some of what these people said they had seen, and their stories seemed credible.
Now as , mentioned in the posting below, many military and people from engineering and design
backgrounds have divulged with pretty staggering impact that they have witnessed ET craft
in various environments.
Prior to the last few years, this matter did not have the 'jurisprudential weight'
(as Frank had said in below posting)that is now lent to the subject by these people coming forward.
That is, if people don't entirely ignore their desire to share this information and more importantly ,
the opportunity to set the record straight on what can actually be kept secret from the public.
If you just look up the disclosure project on youtube you'll find it.
There are a couple of other interesting videos as well.
Comment: Incedentally, I suggested (in an earlier BLOG) going to this site: http://www.syti.net/UFOSightings.html. Unfortunately, the site is colored blue on blue making it difficult to read. You can over come this problem by right clicking on the site and then clicking on Select All and that will highlight the writings making them much easier to read. To get to the site left click, drag the ccurser across the URL and highlite http://www.syti.net/UFOSightings.html then right click and select COPY then paste it to the URL bar.
Comment: So, here I am having the time of my life participating in a BLOG when suddenly interest from others seems to have faded away. This, of course, is pretty much the way it gose with the subject. I watched and interview with a Russian army office on TV (Russia considers UFO's to be a serious matter). Anyway, after the documentary he was featured on ran the gamut of alleged sightings he (the officer) summed it up by saying "I think it is something that we don't know nothing about it". A most profound statement
Comment: hey frank and creptylou; maybe all 460 of them are all black and lying (and no, this is not meant to be racist), and they are saying what they have said because they are now being told to. ) WOuld all 460 of them now, at this point in time, chose to live with the anxiety they might get smacked cause they open their mouth? Looks like they're staging the plausible scenario that will be laid down as the "historical truth" for the next 50 years.
" Yeah, that's what happened, everyone was duped from 47 to like 2008, like the gov't knew they were around but was like scared people wouldn't know how to reaict, dude, so like they reverse engineered stuff from the roswell crash man, you see, that's what happened, so when they came man, we were ready for, but like man, the bad guys came before the good al's, and it was like nasty man. Good thing they were smart enough back then to like prime their headbones with lots of good ole' sci-fi flicks, Yeah and then there was the eugenics thing, so I can fingure out how I got here in 2058, especially talkin' like this, but by Jesus do I like them there flyin' cars - to bad they gotta read my mind to let me drive, but hell they've been doing that for yeurs whether people were flying the car or not!!" Yes, there are some big mysteries here that will play out before our eyes. Will you believe what you are told? A sufficiently developed technology should appear to be magick!!
Scream for disclosure all you want. When you get it, remember to ask yourself who it's coming from. Did you get to sit with that person yourself, ask them your own questions? Force their memory here if you ever get a chance - memories should include details of environment and events preceeding and post-ceeding significant observation/disclosure events. Even ask them the weather that day, other emotional turmoil in their life surrounding events, how he/she felt around their spouse/children carrying heavy knowledge/xperience, stuff like that? If they really had experiences where they saw things of truly great signifaicance, there would be ooodles of data tucked in their head, so dig it. Measure their verbal and non-verbal behavior. My point is here, all of these so-called disclosures come from second, third, fourth sources, most often. Do they not? Read up on Tesla. Was my spelling OK?
Comment: Is the incorporation of information gleaned from the National Press Club regarding
the below mentioned military officers etc., too low brow
for newsweek?
Where does the research in this article coalesce with the information that is now out there on this topic?
Perhaps this is a time for journalists to be more courageous, and brave the stigma that they may
experience in doing a mainstream article on this.
These people (alluded to in below posting)with , in terms of their personal character,were ones entrusted with high security issues.
Now that they have attested, first hand ,to having witnessed ufo incidents , the mainstream
reaction, in the press especially , is conspicuously silent.
Is the press, or public in general, necessarily willing to discredit so quickly , those with whom we (the organizations)entrusted high security
matters at one time?
The press has a responsibility to be informed.The public becomes informed through the press.
This issue has turned into an examination of how govts. and press handle issues of security.
In terms of what has been said , if it is true regarding NASA (disclosure project film)withholding information regarding
crafts not of earthly origin.It calls into question,
the latitude that has been exerted regarding secrecy regarding their activities.
NASA was established having the moniker of the nations public space program.
How public is it?
Has NASA"S right to utilize existing secrecy laws given way to over-reaching and self-serving
exploitation of those laws?
the public should assert its will and put
the pencil to what their tax dollar is going.
NASA was established by the U.S. govt., however.
Sorry to say, many of these organizations that are insulated from public scrutiny can become
bloated and mismanaged.
Comment: Regarding the Frank Fields letter 01/27/2008: BRAVO!
Comment: In support of evidence I suggest going to this site: http://www.syti.net/UFOSightings.html
Comment: This article is not well researched and does not look at all the facts. There is solid evidence of extraterrestrial visitation if one would just look.
Solid testimony from over 460 corporate and military witnesses has been accumulated by two disclosure initiatives. These 460 disclosure witnesses have openly stated they are willing to testify, under oath and before Congress about their direct encounters with crash site investigations, secret documents, photographic evidence, radar reports and recovered crashed ET vehicles.
As an Attorney, I can attest that the jurisprudential evidence of this quality does not get any better, especially when witnesses possess the ranks of Brigadier Generals, Commander of ICBM Launch facilities, Senior FAA Crash Site Investigators, astronauts, pilots and officers with above top secret clearance. This testimony is only the tip of the iceberg.
Many Governments have started releasing previously classified data on ETs and UFOs. France was the first, in March 2007 the French National Space Agency placed 1600 previously classified UFO sighting reports into the public domain for examination; beginning the process of full disclosure of non-Earth origin craft. Similarly, the United Kingdom in May 2007 began a disclosure initiative. Other counties have started to follow suit. It is time for the United States to do the same.
The United Nations General Assembly voted to invite U.N. Member States "to take appropriate steps to coordinate on a national level scientific research and investigation into extraterrestrial life, including unidentified flying objects, and to inform the Secretary-General.???
The Honorable Paul Hellyer, a former Canadian Defense Minister and Deputy Prime Minister, stated publicly in September 2005 at the University of Toronto???s Convocation Hall before the press and over 500 people, "UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head."
Colonel Phillip J. Corso, a highly decorated retired US Army Intelligence officer, who had direct contact with, and was in charge of material from crashed extraterrestrial vehicles, recorded his experiences in a book. Colonel Corso???s documentation is supported by a retired U.S. four star General as being, ???true and even more??????
In my personal experience, I was a U.S. Army Major and held a top secret clearance. I worked as an Army Computer Scientist and am a graduate of the U.S. Army Computer Science School. My awards include the Bronze Star Medal for leadership in combat as well as many others. As a result of my positions other officers have confided in me and I have no doubt that ETs have visited our planet.
Please conduct your own investigation into this matter and help end the governmental and media secrecy. This massive cover-up has been going on far too long. Articles like this appear to be disinformation when obviously no real research was done .
Comment: I agree with most of these postings.
Perhaps it is time to register some lucid protest at the ironic level of reaching and grasping at straws
that takes place, to evade the possibility that what people see is.........what they saw.
if someone witnesses a purse snatching they don't examine the Junigian extrapolations, to find
an alternative, sanitized explanation to conform to , and palliate their sense of denial.
Reaching for internal ephemeral, explanations, to deny that
something unexplainable or ... 'bad' took place.
( We really haven't determined whether these flying things are 'good' or 'bad, not my point )
So many knee- jerk skeptics presume to enlighten us on -humans 'needing to believe in supernatural things as part of our nature' and
supplanting a desire to find God or a supreme being with the "need to believe" in ufos.
There are always going to be the 'magical thinkers , the quixotic thinkers.
That really is not what this is about.
Most of that kind of selling peoples own judgement short is nonsense.
These people didn't ask to see these things while they were shoveling snow or ..being soccer moms.
Mind you, the need to deny and to not believe is just as strong and 'smoke from the same fire' as the need to believe.
People(especially professional skeptics) go through ridiculous contortions attempting to condescendingly sober others up , so their own belief systems are reinforced.
Those belief systems are often based on a sense of denial.In this discussion the denial is that some other living or intelligent entity couldnt' possibly be
piloting what might be...
I dare say... a vehicle of some sort.
This duck might be walking like a duck.
In medicine, as a model for deduction, you gravitate toward the most likely diagnosis first.
Group hallucinations and all the other filmy metaphysical stuff that are offered up as an explanation for one seeing something unusual.
Now that is truly 'magical thinking'.
In fact maybe the psychologists shouldn't be allowed to dine at the 'adults table' anymore.
A physical , seemingly 'intelligently controlled' vehicle would be the first choice of likelihood,
not the last, given the arcane and murky alternate explanations that are given that smack of
'inexact science.
The very kind of inexact science that the scientific community didactically admonishes us about..
Comment: I agree with most of these postings.
Perhaps it is time to register some lucid protest at the ironic level of reaching and grasping at straws
that takes place, to evade the possibility that what people see is.........what they saw.
if someone witnesses a purse snatching they don't examine the Jungigian extrapolations, to find
an alternative, sanitized explanation to conform to , and palliate their sense of denial.
Reaching for internal ephemeral, explanations, to deny that
something unexplainable or ... 'bad' took place.
( We really haven't determined whether these flying things are 'good' or 'bad, not my point )
So many knee- jerk skeptics presume to enlighten us on -humans 'needing to believe in supernatural things as part of our nature' and
supplanting a desire to find God or a supreme being with the "need to believe" in ufos.
There are always going to be the 'magical thinkers , the quixotic thinkers.
That really is not what this is about.
Most of that kind of selling peoples own judgement short is nonsense.
These people didn't ask to see these things while they were shoveling snow or ..being soccer moms.
Mind you, the need to deny and to not believe is just as strong and 'smoke from the same fire' as the need to believe.
People(especially professional skeptics) go through ridiculous contortions attempting to condescendingly sober others up , so their own belief systems are reinforced.
Those belief systems are often based on a sense of denial.In this discussion the denial is that some other living or intelligent entity couldnt' possibly be
piloting what might be...
I dare say... a vehicle of some sort.
This duck might be walking like a duck.
In medicine, as a model for deduction, you gravitate toward the most likely diagnosis first.
Group hallucinations and all the other filmy metaphysical stuff that are offered up as an explanation for one seeing something unusual.
Now that is truly 'magical thinking'.
In fact maybe the psychologists shouldn't be allowed to dine at the 'adults table' anymore.
A physical , seemingly 'intelligently controlled' vehicle would be the first choice of likelihood,
not the last, given the arcane and murky alternate explanations that are given that smack of
'inexact science.
The very kind of inexact science that the scientific community didactically admonishes us about..
Comment: Please the government just came out and said that fighter jets were in the area now after denying it for two weeks. Whats that all about?? Why lie about the truth for two weeks? The only thing I have to say about UFO episodes that hit the media airwaves is that every episode is accompanied by somebody trying to disprove it. The notion that a scientist or the article writer here can use the term "simple physics" to try and explain possible interplanetary travel between star systems is a disgrace to the concepts of science and physics all together. What do we know about alien technology? The public knows nothing. But go dig deep in some government safehouse basement 10000 feet below sea level and see what you find. Does the public really believe that our government isnt hiding something about the bigger picture? Come on. I know im all over the place with my comment but basically I believe some people may have sleep deprivation and their minds make up what they see..I believe that 90% of the time. But the other 10%.. the episodes where people over a large area report the same thing and characteristics...whats that? Mass hysteria? Please. Its unexplained...and most of those unexplained epiodes stay right there...unexplained.
Comment: I live in the great northwestern United States where we enjoy (mostly) cloud cover a good part of each year. Generally we can count on clear skies approximately three (summer) months each year and that is when many sightings are reported. Generally it takes most of the first month of clear skies to realize that what most of us thought was a UFO is actually the sun. However, this should not distract from what others see and report. But, the question remains that if there really is an alien life looking us over why haven't they landed and introduced theirselves? On the other hand, given our habit of slaughtering one another that could be a deterrent. As for myself, I hesitat to go downtown after dark for the same reason
Comment: Using Wittgenstein's duck-rabbit analogy, along with teleportation as a sort of vehicle for intergalactic space travel, seems to me one way of debunking veridical events such as the UFO sightings in Stephenville, TX. They are both extreme analogies which really do nothing to address witness testimony. Besides this, the article fails do provide an evolutionary model for radar recordings of unidentified flying objects which operate outside the parameters of known, man-made craft. Essentially, UFOs are a perceived national security risk. The government does not acknowledge this to the public, but then any informed American ought to not be shocked by this.
Comment: The only thing I seriously doubt is that extraterrestrials could ever exceed the pomposity of this writer.
Comment: Funny; that this article is the first thing that caught my eye today. Last night I observed what I believe was In "fact" a UFO even if NASA launched the space shuttle or even if some other agency launched something, or whatever. I have never reported a UFO and I don't know who I would report it to even if I felt inclined to do so. I do wonder whether or not anyone else on this planet saw "what they or anyone else saw "IT". I live in Georgia, USA in the country or what most call the "sticks". I am not a Physics grad, but did manage to complete a BS in psychology. I wasn't smoking a joint and have not partook in to many years which is probably my lost, ect. Last, I don't think I am a nut case though some might disagree. Anyway, the damn thing looked for real to me and I do not care to listen to any so called explanation. I know what I initially observed with my naked eye and then for about an hour with my cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccyybscope. It looked real to me and if they or whoever could ensure me that I could somehow with stand the G forces just pick me up in Georgia and I will gladly go for a ride and they will not even have to worry about bringing me back home anytime soon or maybe forvever. I swear this on a Bible or a rock
Comment: straight up take me to your leader... im down with that too.
Comment: this is 2 heartbeat we don't look at other humans and say thats a alien u r thinking of people who av just cross the boarder thay r not aliens just mexicans
Comment: You Nasty quit your open uglyness to yourself! I have been reading your comments and you are going to get it big time. the Lord will take care of YOU!!! I am so sorry for you.
Comment: I had seen UFO as close as 300 feet away, I had seen 2 grays and nobody have to convince me here that is not true So was my son until I show him one passing by. But they are too ugly and they like our bitches and I got a message for them: Take them away they are wortless. Take all the Gays and Lesbians away and put them on another planet. I hope they read my maessage.
Comment: robroyj88; that's 88 right, not 77. What we see here in your response is exactly what they want to happen. It's part of the conditioning creeping into more media outlets. It's systematic, it's slow, what was I saying about that RAND study, or was that a DP?
Comment: There is a vast universe out there. Face it poeple, WE ARE NOT ALONE.
Comment: Is spelling a KEY? Hey forgotten_known, is that a Rich edom moment. To say there is a great statistical likelihood of other life existing is quite different than saying you have "eNough evidence to satify those who are willing to believe and never enougH evidence to sway one who is not willing to believe." COuld we please omit the "concept" and word belief from these discussions. I think that would be helpful for yourself and others. We can only collect data. If the data we are collecting has been deliberately vailed in 7 layers of distortion and deception, we wouldn't have valid data, or is it vailed data. We could create faulty "beliefs" about our data. We could think and for emotional reasons, feel our data is valid, couldn't we? SO, in undestanding our data is inherently corrupted, we them can work to destroy these belief systems. It's either all black budget tech stuff coming out of the early 1900's or the story is much more fantastic and mysterious than imagined by most people. If it's the later, the scenario is designed with many branches of "belief" thinking. There's some dark distortions to this whole timeline of events we've been told is "modern western history", that's for sure. Want a trip into a rabbit hole, read about Montauk Project, want some other mindjaicks, read about Pheonix Project, read about the Mockingbird, MKUltra, HAARP, Chemtrails, genetics, schuman resonance, sentient parallel world...... then you mine as well dig into Philadelphia project, Rainbow, symbology, the art of deception, number meanings and use in our culture (besides $, that's a givven), hollywood, medication contra-indications, drugs, sex, gambling, stocks, sports, you name it, IT's there. So, maybe it is as fantastic as some of the above references suggests, or maybe that's what that want some to "believe". OF course, there's plenty of "beliefs" for everyone else. Tesla, Jesus, what's the difference, they're gonna lie to us about both of them. There's mine for you, cause all other data seems just one big slippery slope into "belief-dom" - not a kindom, nor is it pergatory, but shares a little of both.
Comment: Tyler32, dont ever put limits on gods abilities. Scientists are practically finding new universes every week. I'm sure we are not the only living beings in the galaxy, duh!
Comment: http://www.broowaha.com/article.php?id=2996
another great UFO article
Comment: http://www.broowaha.com/article.php?id=2996
another great UFO article
Comment: People really need to learn to spell on here. In regards to this article.....the arrogance we have amazes and amuses me! To think that we are the only life form in the universe is ignorant and absurd! The Truth is out there and has been for a long time. Some things exist whether we believe in them or not. As the saying goes......there is always enough evidence to satisfy those who are willing to believe and never enough evidence to sway one who is not willing to believe.
Comment: People really need to learn to spell on here. In regards to this article.....the arrogance we have amazes and amuses me! To think that we are the only life form in the universe is ignorant and absurd! The Truth is out there and has been for a long time. Some things exist whether we believe in them or not. As the saying goes......there is always enough evidence to satisfy those who are willing to believe and never enough evidence to sway one who is not willing to believe.
Comment: People really need to learn to spell on here. In regards to this article.....the arrogance we have amazes and amuses me! To think that we are the only life form in the universe is ignorant and absurd! The Truth is out there and has been for a long time. Some things exist whether we believe in them or not. As the saying goes......there is always enough evidence to satisfy those who are willing to believe and never enough evidence to sway one who is not willing to believe.
Comment: Think about how we came onto earth. We lived from air and some other things that supported us. If there is one planet that supports life, then a great number of uncountable planets are out there supporting life. Maybe they have more resources, maybe they have better technology, maybe they can do more than an average human. I say how we became as man, is the same process they became them.
Comment: Even facts come from earth itself! Us humans are aliens, part of earth. How do you think we came to be humans? First earth is like any other uknown planet that has air and can support life. The history of us becoming onto earth is all the facts we need. They, the "aliens" may be just like us, but with better technology. We can get to space too, right?
Comment: Heart please don't listen to Donney Dollars, I agree with you. Please continue!
Comment: i bet bush has a brown nose off the alien scum
Comment: why do's every 1 make them self think theres nothing there. no mater how long u back them out thay'll still be here. admit it when somthing do's happen u will be more ready if u just stop lieing 2 your self. trust me when i sore a ufo i dident no wot to think at 1st but u start get it after a bit there is somthing other an us using earth...........and if u see 1 thay'll try making u afraid u r best running strait at them and big bootin them always make the 1st move there tricky alien scum and thay'll stab u in th e back like scum
Comment: 'The Only One'....Did this 'Jive' come from Uranus?
Comment: thay can stop stuff like cars and stuff with power just about every thing then.But thay carn't swich me and my dog off see wot thay do with a bulldog ripping its throte out yea
alien *** scum
Comment: alien scum i'll kick there ass ............and theres more than 1 kind of craft
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