The Democratic Divide

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  • Posted By: bpolice @ 01/19/2008 10:14:14 AM

    What you hear from all the canidates on both sides is geared towards telling you more of what you what to hear. I make no comparison to anyone runniing but two other well know "orators" made great speeches but their end result was absolute disaster. Remeber a couple of guys named Adolf Hitler and Jim Jones. What you see is not always what you get.

  • Posted By: eaw449 @ 01/19/2008 8:55:50 AM

    Its about experience stupid. Look at the mess we're in-- read the books out there-- Bush was a decent man who had no experience -- look at the war and our foriegn policy. Obama was a State legislater prior to running for the Senate - Obama is still the presidential contender with a one-page resume. The Illinois state legislature and half of one term in the U.S. Senate is scant preparation to be president of the United States. In his brief Senate tenure, Obama has no legislative accomplishments, mainly because for most of that short time he's been running for president. My choice is Clinton but if she does not recieve the Democratic nomination I will be voting for the candidate with the most experience from either party and and this moment it is not Obama or Huckabee.

    • Posted By: last appeal @ 01/19/2008 10:13:38 AM

      if you dont have nothing to say you must shut it off.with all the hillary so called experience why did she vote for the war in iraq?we rather need at thi moment someone of right judgement

    • Posted By: Sedaris1 @ 01/19/2008 9:27:12 AM

      I have to disagree with your statement regarding President Bush. Bubba Bush had experience; however, he let power, money, "his Romeo Club", and revenge rule his administration. The only saving grace that he has for him is that he did get NCLB started and he adopted a National Day for Children. Other than that he has been poccessed by the Devil himself. He has blood on his hands whether he is a preacher or not.

  • Posted By: MissyE @ 01/19/2008 10:09:37 AM

    Goldwater08 - I too am saddened by the direction the dialogue has taken but am hopeful that many voting others are ready for a positive change. Thank you for your comments.

  • Posted By: grammagram @ 01/19/2008 10:08:53 AM

    I don't believe Hillary can be a uniter because of all the old school baggage she brings to the table. Bll has been out showing the true 'old Clinton' colors, she is nestled way to close to the old establishment to whom she will owe political favors. But the thing that concerns me most is the behind the scenes nasty campaigning and the lying and deceipt once again emerging.
    Who can trust her to unite the nation?????

  • Posted By: anti_trust101 @ 01/19/2008 10:04:10 AM

    The Clinton administration left America with good field position. The current administration has bumbled and fumbled their way back to their own 1 yard line. The fact is that we are in recession and it is audacious that the same political party that has taken us to the brink whould even campain to get back into office!

  • Posted By: pjonathan @ 01/19/2008 10:04:06 AM


    Hillary fell into what I think was a well-conceived trap set by the Obama campaign regarding executive experience and clean desks.

    Hillary and Bill Clinton's time in the White house was during a much different, much easier time in our country's history than the next eight years will be.

    I think the voters realize that Hillary's claim to experience was that she had only some experience and that it was during that much different, much easier period.

    It is not all that relevant to the difficult next eight years. Her time has come and gone.

    Crowley, even as a reporter adds to her article of today: "There is nothing in Clinton's resume suggesting experience in managing a big bureaucracy. Her time heading the Clinton administration's health care reform effort was marked by criticism of her hands-on management style."

    Hillary fell into what I think was a well-conceived trap set by the Obama campaign.
    Not only have I been impressed by the speech and message delivered by Obama, I have been impressed by the way his organization has run the campaign tactically.

    A year ago all the pundits said that Clinton had a spectacularly strong and experienced campaign, that Bill and Hillary would rarely if ever make tactical mistakes, and that Obama's campaign was inexperienced and naive. What a reversal in the last year, just like in the polls and elections.


  • Posted By: chambma517 @ 01/19/2008 10:01:17 AM

    Ask a stupid question and you get a stupid answer. Every person who has ever been involved with a job interview knows that asking a person with half a brain to describe a weakness they have will get you an answer like "I'm a perfectionist" or "I care too much." The people who are asking the questions ought to come up with some better ones. They might take a page from modern interviewing which asks questions like "describe a time when you..." These are often very difficult questions which require specificiy in the answer.

    Kudos to Obama for giving a real answer. Also, to be fair, Clinton may have been being honest, even if not picking her worst trait.

    The Democratic candidates face a difficult task... to dinstinguish themselves from each other without crossing the line into denigrating one another, for one thing because they will want those votes later, and also the cooperation later of those who are not selected.

    As a last note, it is too bad that Kucinich is not getting more exposure and it's too bad that people must be concerned with not only choosing a person who represents their views but one who is perceived as having a chance of winning the presidency. I am a registered Democrat who saw the debate in Nevada and also saw clips from a debate Kucinich was in. Neither Clinton, Obama, or Edwards inspire me enough to want to support any of them, but Kucinich really did.

  • Posted By: bpolice @ 01/19/2008 10:00:48 AM

    I was wondering if the news folks and the pollists would ever recognize there are two 800lb gorillas in the room. Their names arre sexist and racist. Did any of these mental midgets think this issue would never come up? Give me a break dummies. More than we would like to admit and in spite of the strides made along both lines Americas still judge on gendre and race lines. It is a fact and all the sermons, "logic" and whatever elso will play second fiddle to those two issues.

  • Posted By: nmbfl @ 01/19/2008 9:57:53 AM

    Lets face the fact that everyone in the US is a minority if you throw in gender. Vote for who you believe can bring this country out of the gates of hell. I believe it is Clinton, experience counts. I also believe that a women will take better care of her people than a man. This is about race, the race for president. I want someone who will stand up for all minorities. Clinton is a gift from heaven.

  • Posted By: jv30342 @ 01/19/2008 9:57:07 AM

    When everything are said and done , America needs a President to represent the people and the country as a whole. H.Clinton for President by far is the best candidate....Xperience and Diplomacy ,cared abouth issue, A solid background.A woman ,wife mother, and in her years i think she will surprised us all .











    she have my vote.

  • Posted By: Hemersam @ 01/19/2008 9:56:16 AM

    Of course the media has treated Mr. Obama as the "second coming." Does it take more than a few glances at the TV talkers to realize that? I think not. Ms. Clift is hardly objective. I am 72 years old and have NEVER seen such blatant promotion of one presidential condidate over another in my entire lifetime; I worry that this lack of objectivity on the part of the media does not bode well for America.
    James R. Sharp
    Garland, Texas

  • Posted By: TheMusicMaster @ 01/19/2008 9:55:17 AM

    Hillary or Obama????? BOTH are Loser Socialists who will RUIN the Country! Obama has NO worthwhile experience and his ideas are dangerous. Hillary thinks she was annointed to be Queen,is a total Lying *** who will be dragging Mr. Zipper along to take the reputation of the White House and The Presidency down scandal row even more than they have done before. Kick the Liberals to the curb,including BOTH Houses and let's get back to lower taxes,more people working than living off of those who do,and back to TRADITIONAL Family Values.

  • Posted By: johnwolf @ 01/19/2008 9:49:29 AM

    Gee, if they were so smart they would realize that TOGETHER we would be an unstoppable force. However, their pride would never allow for either Hillary or Obama to take the role of Vice President instead of President. Too bad we have such eager and ambitious folks wnating to take control over the Oval office when they can not even gain control over their personal lives and their party's nomoination process. As for me, I am turned off by all of these self-rightous candidates and I am voting for the ONLY candidate in either party that seems down-to-earth, honest and real..... John McCain.

  • Posted By: anti_trust101 @ 01/19/2008 9:49:26 AM

    Settle down everyone. The real clowns are on the other side of the fence. While Dems fight amongst themselves, a guy who thinks Bush's economic policly is working + a man who wants to continue the war in Iraq + a pastor who thinks he will "take America back for God" are making a play for the Whitehouse!

  • Posted By: Jakeman97 @ 01/19/2008 9:47:39 AM

    In short.....NO! Reason....they keep berrating each other with insults and innuendos. Furthermore, Obama is a 'rookie' when it comes to politics and Clinton is from the 'old guard'. All we would be doing is sending one or the other to Washington to sit in different chairs....NOTHING WILL GET DONE. I think the voters better take a long hard look at Edwards as a candidate.
    Jakeman97

  • Posted By: UCCmember @ 01/19/2008 9:47:31 AM

    Much of the very wrong information about Barck Obama is being disseminated by right-wing talk radio. Obviously, Obama is someone these talking dittoheads fear, and therefore, they are starting early in their typical attempts to slander and destroy. Here is the TRUTH about Barack Obama's religious faith as a member of the United Church of Christ, a mainline denomination that was formed from the remnants of four Christian denominations in 1957: http://www.ucc.org/news/barack-obama-candidate.html. The UCC promotes peace and social justice and has been ahead of its time in its embrace of women and minorities in ministry. I am proud to be a member of a United Church of Christ church and delighted to support Barack Obama as the real choice for hope and change for our nation.

    LPC
    Wichita, KS

  • Posted By: Mac The Blogger @ 01/19/2008 9:47:07 AM

    Hillary or Barack? The question is essentially irrelevant. The Democrats have all the momentum now, and the '08 elections will be another sweep for them. As a result, within one generation, America will be just another Western European-model socialist democracy. Nothing special, mediocre (and if any Democrat wants to deny this, I invite you to describe precisely what you did not like about pre-Sarkozy France). For the GOP, it will have been a self-inflicted wound.

  • Posted By: carnabylane @ 01/19/2008 9:46:28 AM

    Hillary and Bill have not only managed to divide the nation they've divide the Democratic party. They are a team and the nation will end up with a two for one presidency which we do not need. They are self centered, egotistical and power hungry. It will be a reapeat of the past 7 years they'll just give away more of our tax dollars to the welfare recipients and the illegals and the folks who have more kids than they can support.

  • Posted By: Jakeman97 @ 01/19/2008 9:46:19 AM

    In short.....NO! Reason....they keep berrating each other with insults and innuendos. Furthermore, Obama is a 'rookie' when it comes to politics and Clinton is from the 'old guard'. All we would be doing is sending one or the other to Washington to sit in different chairs....NOTHING WILL GET DONE. I think the voters better take a long hard look at Edwards as a candidate.
    Jakeman97

  • Posted By: Oldcrank @ 01/19/2008 9:45:47 AM

    It's not a question of uniting Democrats; they will vote for their candidate. The question is, can either of these two win the Independent vote. In my opion, the answer is no. Both have too many negatives in the polls. I think that the only Democrat who win that decisive block is Edwards. Unfortunately, I do not believe that the party will have the good sense to realize that he is their only electable candidate. As an Independent I certainly want change, but not to Clinton or Obama.

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