INFECTIOUS DISEASE

A New ‘Gay Disease’?

A drug-resistant strain of staph is infecting some gay men, but experts say a lot of the media coverage got it wrong.

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  • Posted By: Erisian23 @ 06/03/2008 9:47:06 PM

    We are all sinners; we will all reap disease, hatred, and death. Just because your preferred ways of sinning don't involve homosexuality doesn't mean you ought to feel entitled to get this self-righteous, lording yourself over others. You will also be relying entirely on mercy and forgiveness when your end comes, so let's all pray that the "You reap what you sow" mantra won't be applied to us the same way you've applied it to your fellow man or else we're all in for a long, painful, terrifying eternity.

  • Posted By: jjp735i @ 01/19/2008 7:40:43 AM

    One would think the media was now run buy the religious right anymore. Now that the story is already out that MRSA is a gay disease (even though it is in correct), you can count on the story to fuel even more homophobia. You can now count on every Evangelical preacher and every anit-gay media to continue to spread the lie. And people will buy it because they need a reason to hate.

    • Posted By: Onelastchance @ 05/13/2008 4:01:50 PM

      True Christians love the person and hate the sin....and homosexuality is sin

  • Posted By: Onelastchance @ 05/13/2008 3:57:14 PM

    You reap what you sow. If homosexuals continue to sow the seed of sin they will reap disease, hatred, and death.

  • Posted By: Onelastchance @ 05/13/2008 3:52:03 PM

    You Reap what you sow. If homosexuals continue to sow the seeds of their sins they will reap the consequences of disease, hatred, and eventually death.....both physically and spiritually.

  • Posted By: ScottSummers @ 02/22/2008 10:55:29 AM

    I got one of these infections on my calf 2 years ago from my gym (I am a straight man who doesn't cheat on his wife). I thought it was just a bug bite until it my entire calf started swelling. Lancing seemed to help ease the swelling. The doctors were totally freaked out. I agree with your assessment that sexual orientation is such a silly thing to fixate on. Please leave gay people alone and for goodness sake stop vilianizing them!

  • Posted By: justjuniper @ 02/19/2008 4:11:16 PM

    1) DON'T JUDGE - you have no right. I'm a straight woman strong in my own faith. I also have a clear understadning that the foundational premise of what we call christianity is love, grace, and acceptance - not judgement. Not your place nor mine.

    2) WHAT THE HELL IS NORMAL?? Normal is whatever you do with your partner. Whatever someone does with theirs is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

    3) JOURNALISM? These headlines and reporting could only be considered jopurnalism in 1940. What it has done instead is put an entire population at risk for not understanding the truth about this bacteria - it's already everywhere, has been for a long time, and truly does not care about the sexual orientation of its host - and brought scrutiny upon a VERY SMALL minority of people. I think you will find that comparing raw numbers vs. percentages per capita, more heterosexual adults and children will be carriers - so where did this really come from?

    • Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 02/21/2008 3:50:05 PM

      We can and should judge others whenever possible, it's the American way. Therefore, I judge that your comments about normal are absurd.

      Men and women were made with body parts that "fit" and are used for reproduction. Men were not made to fit with men and women were not made to fit with women. So, it is not normal to force things together that were not made for each other. You can hammer a screw into a wall, but that doesn't mean the screw was made to be hammered.

  • Posted By: rojack777 @ 01/19/2008 12:29:23 PM

    In response to the below comment: Saying that it is God's way of punishing the gays is like saying Cancer is God's way of punishing the rest of you. Ignorance and hate are not taught in the bible, but yet are practiced every day by people like the below.

    • Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 01/31/2008 4:36:15 PM

      Don't bring up the Bible, gay. You have no right to do that.

  • Posted By: winchester29 @ 01/29/2008 5:14:50 PM

    please don't try to bring your homophobia here, because it is really quite offensive. To answer your question, observer101, homosexuals tend to hide themselves because of people like you, pushing their insecurities and hatred toward people who don't deserve it. It IS a natural occurrence, and if people like you just learned to DEAL with it, then they wouldn't have to hide away and feel dirty and ashamed because of what YOU think.

    • Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 01/31/2008 4:31:42 PM

      You should feel dirty and ashamed. Being gay is not natural. I hate having to explain your disgusting habits to my kids.

  • Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 01/31/2008 4:28:25 PM

    Why do gays have so much disease and infections?

  • Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 01/31/2008 4:19:23 PM

    Way to go gays, thanks a lot for all your disease.

  • Posted By: critical_issues101 @ 01/31/2008 1:07:22 PM

    I am a happy gay man. I do not see why everyone is trying to blame this viruse or disease on the "gay" community. It makes me mad that they are trying to blame it on us. Please help me to try and understand this better!

  • Posted By: cfalbin @ 01/20/2008 5:48:52 PM

    You know what is good about this disease; that is can and will infect everyone. It's been a "Gay issue" or the "freaks in S.F." are at fault. Well this is what you all deserve for being so arrogant that this is not your problem and it will go away as soon as those gays all die off or are institutionalize like the idiot Geminate states. Geminate chooses to be arrogant with his Holier than thou attitude. Shouldn't we ignore his statement because he is an idiot or honor it by acknowledging it?

    • Posted By: Geminate @ 01/20/2008 6:12:47 PM

      Obviously you are gay, my condolences, literally. I am not arrogant, I am honest, and yes, I 'am' holier than you, it's not just an attitude. My IQ is 184, tested 3 months ago, so no, I am certainly not an idiot. . I am angry that the disease of homosexuality has caused countless untold deaths, especially innocents, merely children - you should be ashamed. I hold you and you like personally responsible, you will pay, there will be a Judgment Day.

      • Posted By: cinderella @ 01/27/2008 12:31:04 AM

        How can anyone with an IQ that you claim to have say such stupid twisted ***?

      • Posted By: pageonesfeministwife @ 01/21/2008 6:15:09 PM

        Hmm, I"m pretty sure that in end times God is the judge...Not you. May God have mercy on your soul Germinate.

  • Posted By: cosso89 @ 01/26/2008 12:51:11 AM

    lol wow we seem to be taking over the world us gays!!!! we just know how to reinvent ourselves and set trends!!! can't wait for another new gay disease cause USA 300 is so January 2008. Why are people so stupid and blame gays for every disease??? i would not be surprised if those stupid american scientist created this disease because they cant come to terms with their sexuality!!! look at hitler he was a jew and he hated his own kind...and my advice to fellow gay guys STOP SCREWING AROUND WITH EVERY BUFF AND HOT GUY WITH NO PERSONALITY AND THEN REGRET IT WHEN THE TEST COMES OUT POSITIVE!!!!!

  • Posted By: tomiluka @ 01/23/2008 4:43:27 PM

    @trasher32: Sorry, this thing wouldn't put the whole thing in one post.
    part 1
    What I said originally is that it's in congruent to say that you support gay rights and then proceed to say something like 'get your garbage out of my face'. One of the rights you claim to defend is the right to be respected and I don't think the choice of words in your original post quite does it.

    And still you have failed to come up with evidence to support your argument. You label homosexuality as a genetic error. You should realize a genetic error can not be 'wrong/morally reprehensible' since there was no volition involved. (That was the intention of my original race comment, not to label you as racist) Unnatural? How? As long as there are humans there have been and there will be homosexuals, men and women who are attracted to people of their own gender. It's part of human nature. Not to mention animals do it, too.

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 01/24/2008 4:42:53 PM

      What the hell is the deal with "animals do it too?"...Animals also eat there young and kill others young...Do you want to do that too?....Thats foolish to keep bringing the animal theory into this as a point. If anyone sees two male animals trying to mate the response is alarm, then separate the animals , then laugh. Its still NOT normal behavior. And usually if a animal is trying to mate there is probably a female somewhere in heat they cant get to so they go at it with the next best thing. Id venture to say they are not GAY and want to be with the male as a full time partner, its a need they think they have to fulfill at the time . As for humans, they know better, they know its wrong, and yet they CHOOSE to be disgusting and do that. P.S. If its so right to be gay then why do most gays stay in hiding? Maybe because they know its wrong? Things that make you go HHHMMMMM

    • Posted By: thrasher32 @ 01/23/2008 10:47:48 PM

      Paragraph one: What I meant by "keep your garbage out of my face" is simply this: live your lives without trying so hard to convince the rest of us that being gay is normal. I don't want to see gay pride parades, I don't want to see LOGO television, I don't want to read about or watch homosexual acts in a movie or on television. Be gay and I accept that, but I don't want to hear all the propoganda.

      Paragraph 2: What evidence? Evidence that society sees being gay as abnormal?? The evidence is all around you in society's attitude towardss gays, you went on and on about how hard it is to be gay, isn't that the only evidence we need that society does not see gays as normal?? . I never said anyone was wrong because they're gay, if we're going along with the whole "genetic error" theory here, we can't blame people for their genetic makeup can we? Here's what it boils down to: gay sex. People are repulsed by gay sex, period. Human nature or not, it's not normal activity and people are repulsed by it.

  • Posted By: cinderella @ 01/24/2008 2:28:29 PM

    Ms. Springer , What was the old "Gay Disease?" What is a "Gay Disease?" Can the Flu be a"Gay Disease?"
    Yellow journalism is not a Gay issue. Please try to have some savvy and a little less sensationalism. We've all been through this crap about naming an illness to target Gay people. Your talents may be best suited for a tabloid newspaper.Cinderella

  • Posted By: tomiluka @ 01/23/2008 4:41:20 PM

    part 2

    From that perspective, homosexuality is as abnormal and unnatural as masturbation or oral sex so I guess we live in a pretty 'wrong,unnatural' country. It is not wrong the fact men or women fall in love with each other doesn't cause a damage to society. How is that garbage? And as far as most people in the US finding it repulsive forever, well, I don't know where you got those stats, but either way I know there's a lot of food that's very unpopular yet good for you. It's a social convention doesn't hold up to space and time unless your morality is so relative you find it wrong to be gay here in the US (cause most people find it repulsive) but not in Netherlands or Sweden. So how is homosexuality 'an aberration'?

    I say you should try to construct your arguments better because saying "IT'S NOT NORMAL TO BE GAY. HELLO!! " just doesn't cut it.

    If you're really concerned about the amount of 'immorality' stemming from the gay world, then here's a way to help: try to be more thoughtful and empathic. I can't show you enough studies that show connection between addiction and social abuse. You can be more helpful than you think if you and at least try to be more respectful with your language, which you should admit you were not.

    • Posted By: thrasher32 @ 01/23/2008 10:57:21 PM

      I guess I'm not seeing the link between gay sex and straight sex. Any sex between a man and a woman is going to be thought of as "normal", while any sex between to men (or two women) is going to be looked upon as abnormal. Man on woman sex is accepted by society, while man on man and woman on woman sex is not. That's the bottom line. You can argue and fight all you want. but that's what it really boils down to.

      Love is wonderful, but once again, it's coming down to the sex part. I don't doubt that there are gay people out there that really love each other. I support anyone's right to love and be loved, gay or not.

      And you know, I've written long posts here detailing my positions honestly, so please don't try and write me off as some illiterate one-liner.

      You know what else, I am on your side, defending your right to be gay, even though I disagree with the lifestyle. So maybe you should stop arguing with me about semantics and be happy that me and millions of others like me are willing to put aside our own feelings on the matter and support your rights as human beings and Americans. Like I said over and over again, I support people's right to be whatever they want or are.

  • Posted By: thrasher32 @ 01/23/2008 1:30:37 PM

    Sorry, this wouldn't all fit in one post...

    * As for your last paragraph, it's been my observation that every gay man that I have ever met personally has dealt with severe addiction and promiscuity problems. On the other hand, most of the lesbians that I know or have known do not seem to have the same issues. I have NEVER met a "Will-and'Grace" gay man, I'm sure they're out there, but all of the gay men I have ever met have held up the promiscuous druggie stereotype quite well, which does not do much for your movement. I'd be willing to say that if all gay men were single-partner, drug free, normal acting people, then there would be a lot more acceptance of gays by society in general.

    Finally, I do feel bad for gay people because of the way that they are treated in the world. I hope you can see that I really am for treating everyone with respect and dignity, that I get along fine with gays, both men and women, and that I believe that everyone alive has a right to exist and to be happy and productive. I understand what you're saying when you tell me it sucks having to deal with being gay and all the scorn and looking down upon that it entails. My sympathies are with you, and I support your rights to be whomever you want to be and to choose the lifestyle you want. I will always support basic human rights for everyone regardless of their orientation, gender, religion, or political affilliation.

    I'm not trying to bash gays or insult anyone, although I can see how my opinion would be offensive to gay people, and I'm sorry for that, but if you want honesty on the subject I have given it to you.

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 01/23/2008 1:45:01 PM

      WOW that was short and blunt...Id have to though that I agree with what you said.

      • Posted By: tomiluka @ 01/23/2008 4:17:23 PM

        I saysay you should try to construct your arguments better because saying "IT'S NOT NORMAL TO BE GAY. HELLO!! " just doesn't cut it.

        If you're really concerned about the amount of 'immorality' stemming from the gay world, then here's a way to help: try to be more thoughtful and empathic. I can't show you enough studies that show connection between addiction and social abuse. You can be more helpful than you think if you and at least try to be more respectful with your language, which you should admit you were not.

  • Posted By: joegeeusa @ 01/22/2008 12:45:18 PM

    Heh, where do you people come from? I'm glad that wherever you are it's not next to me (and I'm not talking about the gays posting in here.) Rabid idiocy is apparently more contagious than MRSA. To observer101, you know so much about homosexuality (the nature of teenage choices, etc.), you must have had a choice yourself. I admire your bravery in admitting your bisexuality in such a public forum.

    The last I knew only bisexuals had a choice.

    Thrasher, do you think any sane parent raises their kids to be gay?

    "While Johnny is growing up, I want him to look around at all the adults saying people like him should burn in hell and feel like killing himself. After all, a dead kid is better than a gay kid. If he survives his adolescence, I want him to face ignorance in his day to day life, tasteless jokes, discimination, idiots who think that orientation is only about sex, and churches slamming their doors in his face. That's how I want my kid to grow up."

    Guess again. Since straight people do the majority of the breeding (Geminate pointed that out to us), who do you think gay kids are born to? If it's a question of nurture over nature, how about we sterilize these unfit heterosexual parents and stone them in the town square (if we're going to be shipping the kids off to "camps" to fix them, we'd better look to the source of the "problem" too. Unfit parents raise unfit kids.)

    If it's a question of nature, then the animal species in which homosexuality occurs (all of the primate species, dolphins and whales, birds) are obsviously also flawed. What "evolutionary" benefit could possibly exist from having healthy, non-reproducing adults providing extra food and nurturing to the young of the group (since they have extra, not having any young of their own to raise)? Oh, wait.

    Back to the general hatred in here, guess what group of young people has the highest suicide rate in the country? Two words ... "gay teens" "Thank Jesus", as Fred Phelps would say. "One more dead *** is God's will." Even if it's your child? Or your niece? Or your nephew?

    Are you still so righteous?

    But I guess most of the critics in here know all this through their vast experience. Thanks for enlightening the rest of us. I can't wait to read the next wisdom that seeps from your fingertips. If it's as deep and probing (pun intended for those of you who are anal-obsesed) as what you've shared so far, no doubt Western civilization requires every syllable for its survival.

    Blech.

    Go watch Jerry Springer. I'm done in here. :)

    -Joe G.

    • Posted By: thrasher32 @ 01/22/2008 9:59:36 PM

      Joe you are mistaken. I said I'd support your rights and tolerate your lifestyle. What I patently DID NOT say was that I had to condone, like, or promote the gay lifestyle. If I had it my way there wouldn't be any gays, but as you pointed out, homosexuality seems to be some type of genetic flaw, so I'm personally hoping that science will be able to correct this flaw in our species. In the meantime I will support your rights as a human being, your right to love and eb loved and to pursue the lifestyle you wish, but do NOT try to get me on the "it's OK to be gay" bandwagon, because IT'S NOT NORMAL TO BE GAY. HELLO!!

      And that's the bottom line, that it's NOT OK to be gay. It's NOT normal, it's an aberration and a genetic error. The public will always be repulsed by homosexuality, no matter how much you and your "gay community" try to self-reassure yourselves how normal your lifestyle is.

      So get over it and stop throwing all this garbage in our faces, just live your life and stay out of mine.

      Oh, and that was not very clever, trying to insult observer by calling him gay. That really sounds strange, like a black guy calling a white guy the N-word as an insult. Kind of blew (no pun intended lol) all of your credibility right up front, didn't ya?

      • Posted By: observer101 @ 01/22/2008 10:41:53 PM

        Good points

        • Posted By: tomiluka @ 01/23/2008 12:47:09 PM

          I'd like to point out a couple of things:

          * I detect a hint of hypocrisy in your comments. You say 'I'd support your rights and tolerate your lifestyle' but then go on to say 'If I had it my way there wouldn't be any gays.' It's like you don't want to be labeled intolerant or a bigot but then you go an talk like one. If you want to 'support gay people's rights' you have to respect the right of gay people to be here. Suggesting they shouldn't or their existence should be prevented is not respecting that right.

          * I'd like to know, from what point of view can you determine homosexuality is 'normal' or 'OK'? How is it a genetic 'error'? From a rational point of view, I think your paradigm is that every member of every species SHOULD be able or willing to breed (because, you know, evidently there's a shortage of humans in the world), otherwise incurring in some kind of anomaly, but I have to remind you that there's also barren humans, some of them by choice. Are these people not allowed to exist? Is a person defined by their reproductive mode or lack thereof? From a Biblical POV, well, you have to ask yourself if Jesus would be sitting there writing the words you wrote, bearing in mind he never said anything against homosexuals. However, in case this is your criteria to judge people's sexual behaviors, then kudos to you for respecting the scriptures, I'm sure you never masturbated (also an aberration) and saved yourself for marriage. From a mathematical point of view I guess you could say heterosexuality is the norm, but in the US so is being white, and I don't think you want to imply that people are wrong or deviated just because they don't adhere to the statistic norm, would ya? furthermore, homosexuality was long erased from the list of illnesses from the WHO, because it was long shown that being a homosexual doesn't compromise a person's ability to work, love, function in society in a productive way nor it means it is a threat to the collective welfare. In other words, it IS ok to be gay. There's nothing inherently wrong with being gay and if you have a way to prove otherwise please be kind to share.

          * I'd also like to point out that although a segment the gay community can be dealing with problems of promiscuity and addiction, it doesn't many every gay man is like that. It doesn't even mean that the individuals that deal with these issues should be discriminated or abhorred. No one should. I'm not here to make you love homosexuality. I don't care about that. I would just want you to start thinking twice when putting strong words like those out there, when speaking of 'repulsion' and 'aberrations', because I'm sure if you knew how much it sucks to be dealing with that since the moment you were put on this planet, you wouldn't do it. I'd like you to think of all the children that have to suffer years before they engage in any 'deviant behavior', when they refuse to plays sports or express preference for hanging out with girls, when they are cons

          • Posted By: thrasher32 @ 01/23/2008 1:38:43 PM

            The rest of my post got posted at the top of the thread. Oops.

          • Posted By: thrasher32 @ 01/23/2008 1:30:04 PM

            Well Tomiluka, you make some interesting points.

            * First off, I don't see the hypocrisy in supporting gay people's rights, while at the same time condemning the lifestyle. If we suppose for a moment that homosexuality IS a genetic error, then that would put it in the same class as mental retadation, autism, and birth defects. I would in no way try to impinge on any of these groups' rights, but I would support science actively searching for a fix in the genetic code that would no longer allow these errors to occur. Since we're not there yet, there will be more genetically handicapped people here with us, and we should do everything to make sure that they are treated fairly and not discriminated against because of their defects.

            * Your next diatribe was all about how we know whether or not homosexuality is "normal" or not. First, everyone has a right to exist. Once they're here they're here and we have to treat them with respect and be fair to them regardless of their condition. People that are born barren obviously had no control over their condition, and the ones that have their tubes tied, get a hysterectomy, their 'nads snipped, or whatever have made a personal choice. So yes, once you're here, you certainly have a right to live a happy life. I don't know why people keep quoting scripture, I have not used religion in my logic at all, this line of reasonong is completely agnostic. I don't see anything wrong with masturbation, it's a fact of life. I'm not trying to bible thump here. Religion has no bearing on my opinions. So when you get right down to it, my opinion on what's "wrong" with homosexuality is that it's just plain unnatural for two men or two women to perform sexual acts on each other, and yes the thought is repulsive to the vast majority of people. I love the way you try to bring others into the same group as homosexuals, implying that by thinking homosexuality is wroing automatically means I'm being prejudiced against everyone who's not white. Nice try, but I'm not biting (or buying) on that. I don't argue that homosexuals can be productive and useful to society, so can many handicapped people, and you all deserve to be treated fairly and live your lives happily. Finally, it's OK with YOU and other gay people to be gay, but I am sorry to burst your bubble when I say that the vast majority of this country does not think that it's OK to be gay, and that's what really matters, isn't it, that's what sets the bar as to what's ok and what's not, WHAT SOCIETY thinks, not me. To that end, I think the public has been very cllear about their views on homosexuality, most recently in the whole "gay marriage" debate, the vast majority (over 80% as I recall) strongly oppose it, implying that thet strongly feel that gay marriage is not valid and is immoral. Sorry if that sounds unenlightened or discriminating, but that's what the American people think, like it or not.

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 01/22/2008 8:20:33 PM

      First off Im not or have I ever been gay or bi sexual..obviously that is the type of people you desire to have around you. Being hit on by a guy is not my idea of fun, and I wouldnt want to wish it on any straight man, but if thats your thing then more power to you...freak. And if my child decided he or she was gay I would definately want to know what the hell I did wrong for that child to be that way. After the shock I would still love and care for my child NOT his or her nasty partner. Thats just me. And if he or she killed themselves then I would still hate gay ppls nasty habits and attitudes. It would not change my opinions or feelings toward the fact that gay tendencies are WRONG. Self righteous or not, gays are NOT pleasant people, are not hygenic when practicing their vices, and are loud mouths who think ALLLLL would love to hear there nasty exploits. So whether or not you approve of my opinion is moot....All I said is facts, And I am absolutely sure you know it to be true.

  • Posted By: observer101 @ 01/22/2008 10:35:45 PM

    Regarding Joes remark about animals... Im sure that dolphins, primates and birds are not going around wanting to be gay. They have different markings to differentiate themselves as male and female. It would be silly if you actually think that male animals have a choice to be with another male sexually. They may run in packs for protection, hunting and safety, but they dont stick around each other when its mating season they actually fight eachother for the right to mate. So maybe in some goofy assed fantasy world of yours they might be having gay parties and ENJOYING themselves on Broke Back Mountain somewhere but thats simply not the case. So try another view.

  • Posted By: IJ UK @ 01/20/2008 7:50:20 AM

    it's a pity you cranky Yanks don't spend a bit more time looking at your own lifestyle and a bit less complaining about other peoples, great nation the US! your a joke around the world, every other country thinks you just a bunch of no hopers.
    if you dug your nose out of a fantsy book about a fantasy god and started to look at what a disasterous effect you and you country are having on the world you might just be able to kiss your own *** goodbye just before the ballon goes up.

    • Posted By: pageonesfeministwife @ 01/21/2008 6:30:29 PM

      I have to agree with IJ UK-America is full of "no hopers". I'm embarrassed by our America societal structure that supports hate.

      • Posted By: observer101 @ 01/22/2008 8:27:28 PM

        Well Im sure the love for the monarchy is what started America ...isnt it? Dont think so.

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 01/21/2008 5:48:01 PM

      Seems nothing really come from the UK but bad teeth, bad singers and bad styles. No good Ideas, you are stuck in old times. Just sip your tea, try and bite into your BISQUIT, and wait for the U>S>A to bail you out of another major conflict as always.

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