In The Shadow of Bush

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  • Posted By: America-loveitorleaveit @ 01/21/2008 1:23:05 PM

    Bush has definitely left behind a great legacy. I mean seriously....look at all the amazing things he has done to strengthen America! He invaded Iraq on a whim that they might have nukes. Tried to convince Americans that Hussein was linked to Osama. Yet he still hasn't found Bin Laden. Our economy is on fire! the only thing going for him is his crappy ratings and Haliburton. Gimme a break..."W" is a Loser who has made America worse.

    • Posted By: smyers16 @ 01/22/2008 10:44:14 AM

      Let's examine your Post:
      He invaded Iraq because S. Hussein would not listen to the UN. He gave the appearance that he had the weapons. Everyone had the chance to examine the intel reports. England was convinced, Germany, Spain and Russia believed that he had them and so did the Majority of your Dem Congress-people. He did not decide this on a whim.
      Hussein was evil. Everyone knows it. He thumbed his nose at the world for years. Just because he wasn't linked to Bin Laden, doesn't mean he wasn't a criminal. Iraqis love the US, at least the sane ones do.
      Do you know where Usama is hiding? Can you convince Pakistan to do what they said they would. It's not like he can look up his name in the phone book and get his address. The man is a worm, burrowing his way out of sight because he is a coward.
      What would you have him do? Lower interest rates? DONE. Help people with their mortgages? DONE.
      Quit hating and try to help. What can He Do? Give us a plan that has merit and maybe we can try?
      Dems always have a criticism, but never a solution.

  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 01/22/2008 3:58:34 AM

    Ok many of you still blame Bush for everything. But about the campaign contributors, lobbyists, policy makers, intelligensia and other influential parties (like other world leadrers) who also have direct influence on Bush's decision making? Don't you think that his hands are tight and he was forced to make most of the decision? Why put the blame on Bush alone? He may just be a puppet for a group of people!

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 01/22/2008 12:22:24 AM

    Since we are commemorating Dr. King, let???s see how Bush and his wanna be successors measure up to Dr.King???s view on leadership.
    ???Ultimately a genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus, but a molder of consensus.
    On some positions, cowardice asks the question, is it expedient? And the expedience comes along ad asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question is it popular? Conscience asks the question - is it right?..There comes a time when one must take the position that is neither safe nor politic nor popular, but he must do it because conscience tells him it is right. (From ???Remaining Awake through a Great Revolution.???)
    Rather than showing leadership, the GOP panders to fear and hatred. Right now they are busy smearing each other - Once a candidate is chosen, they???ll smear their opponents.
    In reviewing what Dr King believed, I can???t help thinking that Bush and his cronies are really pathetic excuses for human beings. The same applies for all his wannabe successors. While various GOP contenders may quote Dr. King, they have no interest in really implementing Dr. King???s dream. I also firmly believe that if we made Dr. King???s ideals the basis of our society, we wouldn???t need to worry about fighting terrorism. The would-be terrorists would want to be like us. We really need a revolution in this country - the revolution of values as described by Dr. Martin Luther KIng.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 01/22/2008 12:19:21 AM

    The GOP is Our is obsessed with power. Of all the thinkers in human history, no one defines power better than Dr. Martin Luther King???
    ??? There is nothing wrong with power if power is used correctly. You see, what happened is that some of our philosophers got off base. And one of the great problems of history is that the concepts of love and power have usually been contrasted as opposites - polar opposites - so that love is identified with a resignation of power, and power with a denial of love.
    It was this misinterpretation that caused Nietzsche, who was a philosopher of the will to power, to reject the Christian concept of love. It was the same misinterpretation of power that induced Christian theologians to reject the Nietzschean philosophy of the will to power in that name of the Christian idea of love. Now, we???ve got to get this thing right. What is needed is a realization that power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic. Power at its best is love implementing the demands of justice and justice at its best is power correcting everything that stands in the way of love.???
    How does the GOP measure up to this ideal? Their only reason for power is bully the rest of the world and to enrich the top `1%. No body else counts.



  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 01/22/2008 12:17:41 AM

    Since we are celebrating Martin Luther King???s birthday, let???s compare what the Republicans believe with what Martin Luther King said about working people:
    ??? America, the richest and most powerful nation in the word, can
    well lead the way in this revolution of values. There is nothing to prevent us from paying adequate wages to schoolteachers, social workers, and other servants of the public to ensure that we have the best available personnel in these positions which are charged with the responsibility of guiding our future generations. There is nothing but a lack of social vision to prevent us from paying an adequate wage to every American citizen whether he be a hospital worker. laundry worker, maid, or day laborer. There is nothing except short- sightedness to prevent us from guaranteeing an annual minimum - and liveable - income to every American family. There is nothing, except a tragic death wish, to prevent us from reordering our priorities, so that the pursuit of peace will take precedence over the pursuit of war. There is nothing to keep us from remodeling a recalcitrant status quo with bruised hands until we have fashioned it into brotherhood. (From ???Where do we go from here????)
    Is there any similarity with what Bush has implement and what Dr. King described? Hardly. Nor has any one in the GOP even addressed these issues

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 01/22/2008 12:15:33 AM

    Both Bush and the GOP are full of chatter about the wonders of the global economy. Since today is Martin Luther King Day, we should examine what Dr King was particularly prescient about globalization:
    ???A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. With righteous indignation, it will look at thousands of working people displaced from their jobs with reduced incomes as a result of automation while the profits of employers remain intact, and say ???This is not just.??? It will look across the oceans and see individual capitalist of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa, and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of these countries and say,???This is not just.???
    ... A true revolution of values will lay hands on the world order and say of war,???This way of settling differences is not just.???
    While GOP's financial supporters love trade deals with Third World Countries, they seem to care little about the impact of these trade deals on the Third World. Perhaps they should.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 01/22/2008 12:13:08 AM

    A large part of the GOP???s core supporeters seems fixed on the final judgment which supposedly is near at hand. Since today is Martin Luther King Day, they should heed what Dr. King said about the way God will our nation.
    ???One Day we will have to stand before the God of history and we will talk in terms of things we have done. Yes, we will be able to say we built gargantuan bridges to span the seas, we built gigantic building to kiss the skies. Yes, we made our submarines to penetrate the oceanic depths. We brought into being many other things with our scientific and technological power.
    It seems to me I hear the God of history saying, ???That was not enough! But I was hungry and ye fed me not. I was naked and ye clothed me not. I was devoid of a decent sanitary house to live in and ye provided no shelter for me. And consequently, you cannot enter the kingdom of greatness. If ye do it to the least of these, my brethren, ye do it until me.??? That???s the question facing America today. (From the speech, ???Remaining Awake through a Social Revolution.???)
    Does any one in the GOP care about these core values?

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 01/22/2008 12:12:09 AM

    Religion is a constant political issue. In fact, the Republicans affixed the cross of Jesus to the speaker???s podium at the 2004 Republican convention to show what faith they favored. Let???s see how Republican practices square with what Martin Luther King had to say.
    ???Dives didn???t go to Hell because he was rich; Dives didn???t realize that his wealth was his opportunity. It was his opportunity to bridge the gulf that separated him from his brother, Lazarus. Dives went to hell because he passed by Lazarus every day and never really saw him. He went to hell because he allowed his brother to become invisible. Dives went to hell because he maximized the minimum and minimized the maximum. Indeed Dives went to hell because he sought to be a conscientious objector in the war against poverty. (From ???Remaining Awake through a Great Revolution.???)
    The Republicans have turned the war against poverty into a war against the poor. For all their religiosity, do they honestly believe that their policies are endorsed by Jesus?

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 01/22/2008 12:10:29 AM

    The prevailing political attitude of the GOP is the glorification of greed and selfishness. Since today is Martin Luther King Day, let???s see what Martin Luther King had to say about that attitude;
    ???All life is interrelated. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality: tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. As long as there is poverty in this world, no man can be totally rich even if he has a billion dollars. As long as diseases are rampant and millions of people cannot expect to live more than twenty or thirty years, no many can be totally healthy, even if he just got a clean bill of health from the finest clinic in America. Strangely enough, I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. You can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be. This is the way the world is made. (Sermon.. ???The American Dream.???)
    There???s nothing in Republican rhetoric that says anything about these ideals.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 01/22/2008 12:08:59 AM

    Since today is Martin Luther King Day, let???s compare Bush and his current crop of wanna-be successors with the words of Dr. King. Here???s one of my favorites/
    ??? I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality, and freedom for their spirits. I believe that what self-centered men have torn down, other centered men can build up. I still believe that one day mankind will bow before the alters of God and be crowned triumphant over war and blood shed, and nonviolent redemptive good will shall proclaim the rule of the land..??? (From the ??? Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech.???)
    Does any one in the GOP plan to implement this idea. I don???t think so.


  • Posted By: BraveNewWorld @ 01/21/2008 11:48:10 PM

    Comparing Bush to Buchanan is an insult to Buchanan.

  • Posted By: happyfb88 @ 01/21/2008 10:15:23 PM

    tc125231,

    Your response is a perfect example of why our country is so fratured right now. On the whole, this article was very balanced - the authors were actually quite critical of Bush and ended the piece with a negative comment about him. Instead of focuing on the balanced aspects of this article, or the call for the elimination of the partisanship that is poisoning Washington, you jump all over the one positive thing the authors said about Bush. Our country will never heal if people are so focused on their hatred for people on the other side that they ignore pleas for unity and working together.

  • Posted By: tc125231 @ 01/21/2008 10:06:47 PM

    The idea that W. has experienced great personal growth unreported in the press is absurd. Would that be from his proactive handling of the mortgage meltdown? His brilliant Middle East trip which clearly moved the Israel-Palestinian peace accord forward by negative five feet? His grasp that our standard of living is dependent on our skills, in a country without manufacturing, and 60% of our children don't graduate from college? How about an actual plan to get us off foreign oil?

    None of these? Did you mean some other Bush --or perhaps you were referring to improvements in his mountain biking?

    Pathetic.

  • Posted By: liddi_40 @ 01/21/2008 2:37:39 PM

    Anyone concerned this vote may divide North and South again in the USA?

    • Posted By: LSD4u2 @ 01/21/2008 8:49:06 PM

      Where has your head been, up where the sun don't shine? The North and the South has always been divided.

  • Posted By: rowdy @ 01/21/2008 7:49:06 PM

    From the very beginning I didn't approve of the war. I thought it was a big mistake do to the history of the middle east. As a responsible citizen I now stand behind the president in his choice not to pull our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan. It would be an embarrasment to the whole country. The hatred that has prompted the terrorrist to such evil attacks against the U.S. as not disappeared. In fact it has intensified. They are not going to go away anytime soon. Putting a new president in office who feels that stopping the war is the best thing we can do for our country, would be a bigger mistake. We would not only endanger our people but would also leave Afghanistan and Iraq in a very defenseless state with no chance to stand against the people who oppress them.

  • Posted By: asminto @ 01/21/2008 7:10:50 PM

    I find it amusing when ever any one mentions the Clintons it always comes down to the affair that rocked the White House. Oh My! He had an affair! He is the only man alive to do that! For sure, the only President to do that! Come on people, if that is the best you can come up with you need better material. Why is it that people are so frightened of a women becoming President. Afraid she might do a better job? Hillary deserves the opportunity to do a better job.

  • Posted By: duckfeet34 @ 01/20/2008 9:38:59 PM

    How dare you demeanor those that choose to defend our country. Starry eyed youngsters? How 'bout middle aged National Guardsmen with a family of four who do it becase its the right thing to do. And Vietnam? please. The only way Iraq is another Vietnam is because people like you want it to be. You need to have that to protest about. Last I checked there still was no draft in place. The only parallel I see between the two wars is we are once again fighting toward a siece fire or a quick out. Whatever happened to a unconditional surrender. Learn from history....are the fundamentalists we are fighting against any less radical than the Japaneese or the Nazis of the Second world war? They certainly are just as dangerous. A unified America is unstoppable, history has proved that, however you have liberals saying the war is lost or at lest it cannot be won. I think Walter Cronkike said someting similar after the Tet Offensive (a overwhelming U.S. victory by the way) wait.....theres another Vietnam parallel. The point is we have to see this through. Korea - seice fire......still a problem today. Vietnam - withdrawl.....black eye that still divides us and 50,000 dead with no meaningful result. Gulf War- siece fire....that brings us to where we are now. Remember what Churchill said "never, never, never give up". By the way.....rail60.....boo hoo. This country was built on capitolism. Quit lookin to the goverment to solve you problems and do it yourself. I am neither rich or priviliged but I can make a go of it....i'm sure with some effort you can too. I wonder what you yourself are doing to help the poor and less fortunate?

    • Posted By: jtudor2002 @ 01/21/2008 10:22:09 AM

      Similarity of the two wars? Primarily is the point that neither were/are supported by the American people, the ones who fund it. Take a civics lesson, for God's sake.

      • Posted By: duckfeet34 @ 01/21/2008 7:10:28 PM

        Speak for yourself but your ignorance will never speak for me. As long as there are American boots on the ground I will support them to the end, you should too. There will be plenty of time to discuss the pros and cons in civics class after the victory in Iraq.

  • Posted By: rrrtifax @ 01/20/2008 11:34:07 AM

    As a republican, I would like to trade Romney to the Democrats for Obama.

    • Posted By: Libertylover @ 01/20/2008 11:43:44 AM

      I like Obama, too, and if it comes down to it, I can support him. However, everyone is forgetting that we have our own "Obama" fighting for real change, and his name is Ron Paul. Don't let the media lead you to believe that he is not a real choice. My concern with Obama is that I don't see him championing our civil liberties, which are being undermined on an almost daily basis. Also, the value of our dollar is a real concern, and I don't hear Obama addressing that issue.

      • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 01/21/2008 6:55:48 PM

        As a Democrat, I like Ron Paul also......something's fishy when the republicans won't accept him. He must not have drank the kool-aid.

        People need to find common ground.....to sit here and constantly call someone a moron because they don't agree with you only shows how close minded you really are.

        Also, I never want to hear again about the liberal media - the Nevada Democratic debate wasn't even televised in Las Vegas locally!! If you didn't have cable, you couldn't see it live. Nevada just had the first caucus in years the Saturday following the debate - and the debate wasn't aired! That isn't because of the liberal media.

  • Posted By: Cercerned About Demoicracy's Future @ 01/21/2008 6:17:18 PM

    It's was not merely George W. Bush's arrogance that is "hurting" the Republican hegemony. It is the lock-step, unwavering partisan manner by which Republicans suppored every misguided and disastrous policy of GWB! This Administration has left NO sphere of public policy undamaged - not to mention the damange to our Constitution and the rule of law! - and he was able to achieve this dubious distinction ONLY with the blind loyalty of Republican legislators. The Republican hegemony achieved a narrowing of the parameters of the possible, reducing the country to helplessly watching as they sold us out to every special interest, lied us into a bloody and unending war, and they actually institutionalized the practice of torure! - and demeaned such basics as habeas corpus. A pox on your house. You deserve to go into exile until you learn that your ONLY purpose is to serve the American people - BEFORE your party, and absolutely before "your" President!

  • Posted By: Natalie Rosen @ 01/20/2008 2:20:02 PM

    I like the comparison of George Bush to pre-Lincoln Buchanan. I never, from day one, ever thought George Bush was up to the cerebral task, or possessed the intellectual excellence and wisdom that, in my opinion, one needs to be president. Risking arm chair psychology, George Bush, in my opinion, is a vapid and vacuous man who had the good fortune to be born into the right family which he used successfully to extricate him from trouble and get him into prestigious schools for those would be presidents-in-waiting. He got out of trouble most of which most of us would pay a huge price for whether it was his evasion of military service, the consequences of his alcoholism, countenancing the theft of an election or even courting treason by the outing of a covert agent. I think he did not care about anyone, anything or even his country as long as his own hide was saved. I believe George Bush knows he was given the intelligence short straw and feels uniquely inferior to his much more able father H.W., grandfather Prescott and brother Jeb. So, he appears outwardly to be unmovable and strong. In reality, though, I believe he feels utterly incapable and weak. I think he is a weak man, unknowing of history, and a man who by his ignorance and lack of insight, has cost thousands their lives through his utterly failed policies both foreign and domestic. Admittedly, I am not a Republican but I could manage to say some positive things about Reagan, Eisenhower, H.W. Bush and even Nixon. There is not one thing I can say that is positive about George W. Bush. Not one.

    • Posted By: OccHealthMD @ 01/20/2008 11:52:52 PM

      I will have to say that George W. Bush certainly has affected my life in a positive way. He and his henchmen have driven me right out of the Republican Party! Viewing their callous disregard for law and order and their singleminded determination to fill their own pockets and those of their cronies with the largess of war and the natural resources of our areas of conflict and even our own country, I can no longer look myself in the mirror and ally myself with anything that we might have in common. Leaving the GOP in absolute shambles is their legacy; becoming what is sure to be the most ridiculed and reviled pair of executives in the history of the Nation will surely be their epitaph.

      • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 01/21/2008 6:09:19 PM

        Please, I know a republican who actually said to me "Well, I don't think anyone is supporting Bush right now." Obviously he's totally clueless, but for those republicans who are ashamed of Bush, THANK YOU for speaking out! Please say something, the Democrats have not been crazy this whole time. Please help unwind the web of lies the media has weaved! Those who still support Bush would cut off their nose to spite their face.

    • Posted By: imntacrook @ 01/20/2008 9:59:01 PM

      Bush envy - the man is a genious

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