In The Shadow of Bush

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  • Posted By: duckpile @ 01/20/2008 3:47:43 PM

    I just hope that the next person to occupy the Oval Office is willing to build a consensus, and bring us back to moderation, peace and prosperity. The only reason that we are not preparing for an invasion of Iran right now is that SpongeGeorge Squarepants lost his majority in Congress in the 2006 elections.

  • Posted By: JW Chicago @ 01/20/2008 3:39:39 PM

    Thank you for your comments. However, you act surprised by the rise in oil prices. The high cost of oil was the main reason for all of this. Bush is an oil man to the core. There is no surprise that he would support those who helped him get to where he is today.

    The out of control military spending, the insane tax breaks, the oligopoly in our media (our supposed society's watchdog), the political control of our legal system and the marginalization and unraveling of our civil service are the main goals of the neocons.
    I don't understand why you guys criticize him. These were his goals. Matching his results with his goals shows that he has done a wonderful job as president. I think you are all missing the point. The real discussion should be based on this new conservative party values based on profit taking rather than investment and how religion and the deregulation of our media have removed any real debate of substance.

  • Posted By: rplat @ 01/20/2008 12:58:14 PM

    What wreckage? Bush has more courage and commitment than the entire staff of this left wing rag. The Republican Party has been damaged by wavering congressional politicians, not Bush.

    • Posted By: commonsense101 @ 01/20/2008 3:38:32 PM

      Repeating yourself over and over while spouting nonsense. Yep, definitely a Bushie.

  • Posted By: sculptor 1 @ 01/20/2008 3:38:09 PM

    If the Newsweek and many of it's "journalist brethern" were not such idioloques many of the comments here wouldn't exist. I remember when similiar comments were of Reagan and they have gradually changed as time moves on. The only thing that is changed is the vileness of some of the comments, comparison to Hitler and other dictators. It's obvious, some are incredibly ignorant of history.

  • Posted By: dcwhit @ 01/20/2008 2:03:15 PM

    The rhetoric from "authors" like Evan Thomas will continue to be irrelevant as long as they abandon fact and reality to focus on Bush bashing. Please return some objectivity to reporting before the entirety of American journalism falls to a reputation of tabloid journalism. Americans yearn for our media to return to an objective source of truthfull analysis and reporting that we can trust and rely on.

    • Posted By: ericarage @ 01/20/2008 3:33:52 PM

      "Objecttivity" in the media would be the end to the free pass given by all outlets for fear of sounding "unpatriotic" and the drivel used by those like you to silence any criticism has done nothing to further the function of democracy. I'm sure you think Fox is fair and balanced rather then a mouth piece for the GOP? No one has done a better job of skewing the dialogue and function of media and debate then the right wing spin doctors and fear mongers. And Bush - he'll go down in history as the worst president ever. No one deserves more bashing then Bush - except maybe those who chose and supported such an inept moron for the job. There is and will continue to be such a huge cost, on so many levels for the last seven year folly.

  • Posted By: true _squad @ 01/20/2008 3:32:46 PM

    Bush did something remarkable. He turned our allies against us. He orchestrated a backlash against the French and the Germans because they objected to his rush to attack Iraq. Who do you think was right ? Some people were smart enough to see through the Bush and Cheney lies back then. Too bad more people that could have stopped the sleazemasters did not speak up back then.




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  • Posted By: neoconx @ 01/20/2008 3:31:01 PM

    while it is true that republicn voters are proving themselves to be morons in the primaries so far, the limp-wristed leftists who write for newsweek (and comment here before me) might very well not be getting the tax increases and juggernaut beaurocracy they so covet this election

  • Posted By: onward_ever @ 01/20/2008 2:08:29 PM

    Leave it to an NBC (Nothing But Clinton) entity to put out into the public domain, again, a depressing piece of non-news like this. You're a liberal publication. We get it. i don't think history will record Bush as a bad president. Not since Truman has a president inherited so much to fix. A recession. The World Trade Center. Katrina. I know a lot of individuals on the hard left supported Hussein and not Bush and that's their right. Castro to them? No problem. Chavez is a God. I know, I know. Moses had a relationship with God and killed a bunch of innocent Egyptians with a sea, so Bush apparently did the same kind of thing with Katrina. I don't think the hard left hates America, I just think...I just think...actually, they probably do hate America. So vote Clinton in and give another rogue country nuclear weapons. Just another thing for the next Republican president to fix. I certainly don't think Bush is perfect, but considering what he inherited from Clinton, he's done some astonishing impressive things. Sometimes doing the right thing is unpopular. Welcome to life.

    • Posted By: ericarage @ 01/20/2008 3:23:00 PM

      You are a perfect example of the mindset whose commentary has caused so much needless devisiveness, pain and frustration. It's skewed to present all the fear as viable, all the hate as acceptable and to make ignorance look like divine awareness. Bush will go down in history as the worst president this country ever had. It was not just fear and ignorance that helped propel him but the machinations of the true elite who really don't give a damn about democracy when it interfers with their agenda. It is pathetic how so many blindly follow their lead when it only serves to diminish the quality of their lives.

  • Posted By: QUIQUE1000@hotmail.com @ 01/20/2008 3:19:12 PM

    You forgot to add the new arms race that Mr Bush and his people have gotten us into. The fact that Mr Bush scrapped the ABM treaty with the Russians, under the pretense of protecting our country from "rogue" states (whatever that means) has only served to re-start the cold war. The latest raise in the ante is Russia???s threat to use nuclear weapons due to the proposed installation of an ABM system in Poland.

    So now we have the start of a new cold war, we are spending trillions of dollars on the war, we are paying over $90/barrel of oil thanks to his invasion of Iraq (oil was $30/barrel before the invasion), our economy is heading into a recession and he is trying to start a war with Iran which will be a tad more costly.

    Most President have either done a good job either with the economy or with foreign policy. Mr Bush has only done a good job for the big companies, oil and military complex where each have made millions of dollars at the expense of the country.

  • Posted By: Vickie1ok @ 01/20/2008 2:46:48 PM

    How interesting the media has suddenly learned the Emporer has no clothes just in the last year. I knew it before he became Emporer. What's your excuse?

    • Posted By: dhaneshaney @ 01/20/2008 3:17:08 PM

      Love your comment and couldn't agree more... Thanks!

  • Posted By: adirondack_1 @ 01/20/2008 3:16:31 PM

    Bush's legacy will be one of two things. Either this country will be in a headlong run to uncontrolled liberal spending along with a complete unraveling of the social structure or there will be a world order arise that is intolerant of human rights abuses anywhere and the return of 20/ 20 hindsight to the closet of partisan hacks.

    California law will remain in California where it can please those who support that kind of unfounded revolt against mainstream culture.

  • Posted By: QUIQUE1000@hotmail.com @ 01/20/2008 3:15:40 PM

    You forgot to add the new arms race that Mr Bush and his people have gotten us into. The fact that Mr Bush scrapped the ABM treaty with the Russians, under the pretense of protecting our country from "rogue" states (whatever that means) has only served to re-start the cold war. The latest raise in the ante is Russia???s threat to use nuclear weapons due to the proposed installation of an ABM system in Poland. Here we go again...

    So now we have the start of a new cold war, we are spending trillions of dollars on the war, we are paying over $90/barrel of oil thanks to his invasion of Iraq (oil was $30/barrel before the invasion), our economy is heading into a recession and he is trying to start a war with Iran which will be a tad more costly.

    Most President have either done a good job either with the economy or with foreign policy. Mr Bush has only done a good job for the big companies, oil and military complex where each have made millions of dollars at the expense of the country.

  • Posted By: dhaneshaney @ 01/20/2008 3:15:23 PM

    In regard to the article about Bush.... he should be so lucky as to be compared to James Buchanan... I think he is much, much worse. And hostory will be wrong if it does not consider him the worst of all presideents to date!

  • Posted By: rplat @ 01/20/2008 12:58:02 PM

    What wreckage? Bush has more courage and commitment than the entire staff of this left wing rag. The Republican Party has been damaged by wavering congressional politicians, not Bush.

    • Posted By: ericarage @ 01/20/2008 3:14:16 PM

      How did your mind get so shallow?

  • Posted By: Pecos_Bill @ 01/20/2008 3:11:58 PM

    Thanks Bill50, I served in Vietnam, so I am glad I meet your standards for commenting on this situation! But I don't think no further terrorist attacks under Bush means much at all. Terrorism has behaved this way for many years, going back to the 1972 Olympics, and even before. They make their shot where they can, then hide until they can hit us again. Bush hasn't really stopped anything, in my opinion. I think the biggest problem is that Republicans have been lying to themselves over the years, and Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and FAUX News has done most of it. First it was the "Liberal Media" which was a good cover for why Republican policies were not more popular with the country at large. Then it was the Clinton's witch hunt, the "myth" of separation of church and state, "enviromental extremists" and other lies that covered what Republicans did not want to accept. Both parties do it, but it has become SOP in the Republican party and gotten so bad that I will not support them until they reform drastically!

  • Posted By: Jeances @ 01/20/2008 3:04:23 PM

    It seems to me that the hard core supporters of republicans, ie the evangelicals, the gun rights people, the anti abortionists ect... vote republican not because of what the republicans will do for them ( The republicans have passed no meaningful laws prohibiting abortion, allowing more gun ownership, or promoting more religion despite controlling both houses and the supreme court) They vote out of fear of what the republican talking heads tell them the democrats will do. The republican party seems to attract more than its fair share of fearful people who would rather be coddled and protected than to think for themselves. They get rilled up over hot button issues like abortion, religion, and guns and the republicans use this indignation to solicite votes nad money, all the while lowering their standard of living and diminishing thier freedoms.

    Fear is the great motivator and the republicans manipulate it the best. Fear causes people to act and vote irrationally. Fear causes people to give up their freedom, liberty, and money in exchange for dubious assurances of protection from nebulous threats that are hyped to extreme ends so as to generate more politcal donations and votes. The single issue voters will give up all their fredoms, liberty, and money not so they can see their issues resolved (that wont happen because the republicans would loose their prime money making base) but just to prevent the democrats from "possibly" doing detriment to their precious beliefs. There is no hope of convincing the hard core right of considering the facts, they are self centered the the extreme and consider only what they want for themselves, not what is best for the country as a whole.

  • Posted By: midnirdr @ 01/20/2008 3:03:31 PM

    Ordinarily, I would not post to something like this but to Arista...... well done!!!!

  • Posted By: gracchus2 @ 01/20/2008 2:46:27 PM

    Actually the United States had national interests in Vietnam and after the French were decisively and humiliatingly defeated at Dien Bien Phu, the United States took over under Eisenhower. He sent 1,500 military personnel to Vietnam. Kennedy escalated it and Johnson made it into a mess.

    • Posted By: FedorEmelianenko @ 01/20/2008 3:03:19 PM

      That's a decent summarization.

  • Posted By: Pecos_Bill @ 01/20/2008 2:57:29 PM

    Good Post, Natalie! I agree with just about everything you said, except that I feel that Dumbya has really taken this party to the heights of idiocy and extremism, partly due to his lack of intellect. I look at Paris Hilton and George W. and see essentially the same background, the same depth, the same everything, basically.... I think George and Paris were probably raised the same way, and they never were really pushed to accept the consequences for their actions. With Paris, it is driving drunk without a license(so like the young Bush), with Bush in a job he has nowhere NEAR the intellectual capacity to handle, the consequences are a little more serious.... With Nixon and Clinton, both had character flaws, but also HAD the intellectual capacity to do the job, and that is why both had accomplishments, real accomplishments, while Bush has done nothing but screw up the Supreme Court.
    But the Republican party has become a Flat Earth Society, anti-science, anti-technology, anti-anything that gets in the way of their myopic thinking. I could see it coming with Rush Limbaugh and Newt and Tom Delay, and I watched them move further and further and further to the extreme right. Like I said, I used to be a Republican, but I'm going to donate money and vote for ANYONE other than Republicans until I get my state(Texas) and nation back again. I will not willingly allow this country to become a Fascistic Theocracy...

  • Posted By: FUWEI @ 01/20/2008 2:40:24 PM

    The title of the "SHADOW OF BUSH" would be more appropriate if it was called "THE BUSHWACKERS LEGACY" The shadow he has cast on the American people would better explained if it was called "BUSH'S DARK STAIN ON AMERICA" Like many dirty filthy dark stains, sometimes there is no cleaner that exists to iradicate it. "FILTH" of his "ILK" can better be explained by comparing the "BUSHWACKER" to OSAMA BIN LADIN, HITLER, MUSSOLINI, EICHMAN EDE AMIN, the the rest of the "TRASH" in the history of our world.
    I have no doubt, althought not a devout "CHRISTIAN" that the "BUSHWACKER" is a "DISCIPLE OF SATAN"
    posturing as a believer in "GOD' such as "LUCIFER" presented himself to be.
    There is only one appropriate place for the "EXCREMENT" that refers to himself as the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ". HELL IS WHERE HE IS DESTINED TO GO. AND HELL IS WHERE HE BELONGS, WITH THE REST OF GOD'S ENEMIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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