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Turning Up the Heat

At the Myrtle Beach debate, Obama and Clinton simmered.

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  • Posted By: delakile @ 01/26/2008 5:08:39 AM

    I have to say the as an Independent, I am totally disgusted by the Clintons. They have no shame or any decency. These two will do anything to get elected. And to further the notion of how low these two will go, someone please tell me, who exactly is running for the whitehouse? Is it Hillary or Bill? Listening to the two of them, you can't tell. That is just out right disgraceful.

    You would think that the Clintons would have waited until after the primaries inorder to unleash their wrath but true to their characters, it doesn't matter who it is they are fighting. This is as "bloody" as one can get without actually committing the act! And to prove how bad it is, just listen to the pleas from the rest of the democratic party. They are saying, "pipe it down!" What else can one say?

    Remember that evil cannot triumph. It can try and squirm its way around but it will eventually be defeated. The Clintons are in the "evil" realm of what humans are. Ultimately, their deceptive, corruptive and vicious nature will be squashed once and for all!!!

  • Posted By: isupport @ 01/25/2008 4:56:02 PM

    Between Omama and Clinton - they are both weak. But of the two, Obama shows strength within himself. Whereas Hillary and her husband seem to be weakening her campaign.

  • Posted By: Johnny1967 @ 01/24/2008 4:00:34 AM

    I am supporting Obama. After some thought, I welcome President Clinton and Hillary Clintons attacks. In fact, Obama should take the Clintons scrutiny and attacks with appreciation, respect, smile, and stride. That is, Obama should be saying, BRING IT ON!

    The American people want to know whether the candidates have the character to be President. In reality, there is more than enough information at the candidates websites regarding policy and plans. Therefore, the race is really less about issues, but more about character. And rightfully so!

    Obama has the character to be President of the United States. Consequently, he can handle anything the Clintons (or anybody) throw at him. It does not matter whether the accusations are fair or unfair. As President, you will be faced with fair and unfair criticism all of the time.

    So far, Obama has not let me down. Granted, hereon out, he may fall or trip occasionally. However, I am behind him all the way to the Presidency.

  • Posted By: Obama Supporter @ 01/23/2008 12:08:06 PM

    Dirty politics

    The Hill Bill Show of the Clintons

    The voters and the Hill Bill Show of the Clintons (plural) should be ashamed of the insidious and disgraceful republican smear tactics the Clintons are using. Mark Penn is the Clintons replacement for Carl Rove ??? Does anyone need more convincing of how big a mistake the Hill Bill Show will be? The Republican Party will be re-energized big-time by the Hill Bill Show. Republicans are chomping at the bit to fight Hill and Bill. Do you want another 4 or 8 years of partisan bickering between republicans and democrats?

    The NY Times and Meet The Press before the Nevada vote caught Hillary and Bill again lying about her Iraq war voting but it has not been discussed. These lies are just another example of what to expect with the Hill Bill Show!

    NY Times 1/14/08 pg 18 Defending Iraq War Vote

    How can Hillary say on Meet the Press that "Chuck Hagel, who helped draft the resolution, said it was not a vote for war" when in fact the Hagel resolution never passed and it was a Gephart agreement sponsored by Lieberman that ultimately passed?

    How could both Hillary and Bill (on Larry King Live) both misrepresent or intentionally spin or make up new facts that sound good but are not true?


    ???Electabilty???
    Is character and honesty more important than experience?
    How much of Hillary???s career has been spent ???in the trenches??? helping the people?
    Senator Obama is more qualified and has better experience than Hillary.

    Campaign Promises
    How do you expect Hillary to pass any of her main programs when republicans hate her, e.g., universal health care and withdrawing troops from Iraq, and keep them from being blocked by Republicans in the House and Senate?

  • Posted By: Obama Supporter @ 01/23/2008 12:07:27 PM

    Dirty politics

    The Hill Bill Show of the Clintons

    The voters and the Hill Bill Show of the Clintons (plural) should be ashamed of the insidious and disgraceful republican smear tactics the Clintons are using. Mark Penn is the Clintons replacement for Carl Rove ??? Does anyone need more convincing of how big a mistake the Hill Bill Show will be? The Republican Party will be re-energized big-time by the Hill Bill Show. Republicans are chomping at the bit to fight Hill and Bill. Do you want another 4 or 8 years of partisan bickering between republicans and democrats?

    The NY Times and Meet The Press before the Nevada vote caught Hillary and Bill again lying about her Iraq war voting but it has not been discussed. These lies are just another example of what to expect with the Hill Bill Show!

    NY Times 1/14/08 pg 18 Defending Iraq War Vote

    How can Hillary say on Meet the Press that "Chuck Hagel, who helped draft the resolution, said it was not a vote for war" when in fact the Hagel resolution never passed and it was a Gephart agreement sponsored by Lieberman that ultimately passed?

    How could both Hillary and Bill (on Larry King Live) both misrepresent or intentionally spin or make up new facts that sound good but are not true?


    ???Electabilty???
    Is character and honesty more important than experience?
    How much of Hillary???s career has been spent ???in the trenches??? helping the people?
    Senator Obama is more qualified and has better experience than Hillary.

    Campaign Promises
    How do you expect Hillary to pass any of her main programs when republicans hate her, e.g., universal health care and withdrawing troops from Iraq, and keep them from being blocked by Republicans in the House and Senate?

  • Posted By: Nwsreader @ 01/23/2008 12:04:24 PM

    The man who posted this false information about Barack Obama in the previous comment should be ashamed at himself. You are lying, or have been lied to. Get the true information please.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 01/23/2008 12:40:04 AM

    "Our country is too large to have all its affairs directed by a single government. Public servants at such a distance, and from under the eye of their constituents, must, from the circumstance of distance, be unable to administer and overlook all the details necessary for the good government of the citizens; and the same circumstance, by rendering detection impossible to their constituents, will invite public agents to corruption, plunder and waste." --Thomas Jefferson to Gideon Granger, 1800. ME 10:167
    "I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That "all powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people." [X Amendment] To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specifically drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition." --Thomas Jefferson: National Bank Opinion, 1791. ME 3:146

    WHY CAN'T WE SEE THAT THE PeoPle Profiting from the war are haPPy with the status quo. WHo are these PeoPle,
    Private Contrators who lobbied the RePublican adminstration
    Cheney/ Halliburton who Provided billion dollar contracts to selected firms.
    These caPitalists decided to unite and Profit in Iraq, Build a new economy in Iraq where the oil comPainies, caPitalists that suPPort the Bush Administration, War Profiteers and other Private comPanies could all make Billions at the tax Payers exPense. HERE"S THE proof, keep in mind this is just the tip ot the ice berg

    Cheney's stock options which were worth $241,498 a year ago, are now valued at more than $8 million-- for an increase of 3,281% . Cheney has pledged to give the proceeds to charity. Cheney continues to receive a deferred salary from the Halliburton. He was paid $205,298 in 2001; $162,392 in 2002; $178,437 in 2003; and $194,852 in 2004.

    Halliburton, has already raked in more than $10 billion for work in Iraq, and was handed some of the first Katrina contracts. The company has been criticized by auditors for its handling of no-bid contacts in Iraq, and there have been numerous allegations of over charging for services. Auditors found the firm marked up meal prices for troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. The company also built the American prison at Guantanamo Bay. "It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it. Lautenberg???
    They even "pimped" our troops. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
    Do you think Bush and Cheney care that we are spending billions in IRAQ, NO. THis is why they hated the CLINTONS. THE CLINTON"S ACTUALLY USED TAX payer money to help the middle class and all AMERICANS. We want our money back and will begin suing as soon as the administration is out of power.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 01/23/2008 12:33:45 AM

    We have been fooled by our own government and there is no way any Republican is going to win this election. THE Middle class has had it with all this Bin LADEN terrorist crap. WE are now scared of our own government more than we are of the terrorist because the decisions this government is making on our behalf is not in our best interests and it is killing us. The government is now dominating our civil liberties. They are giving the states millions for Real ID Cards. This is just the start of government intrusion. Combine this with the misuse of the Patriot Act and the future Plans of insurance comPanies and corporations to have full access to our personal records and we have a real crisis.
    Credit Card companies have already started selling and sharing our personal information with the private sector. We really have to wake up and protect our constitution it is all we have to defend ourselves against interests that become too rich and powerful in this country. The government keeps expanding and is being predominantly controlled by special interest and lobbyist. The middle class is being weakened and our civil liberties are being threatened. Real ID Cards will not make "us safer" infacat terrorists can obtain fake ones and move about freely. The American people did not vote on Real ID Cards, we need a vote. Our constitution would have to be ammended in order for Real ID's to become legal. I do not know what has happened in Washington but it is getting out of hand. They know what they are doing is unconstitutional so they are trying to bribe the states by offering them money. I hope every state agrees with me and Prevents the federal govenment from imPosing and unconstitutional law. If the states allow the government to do this then they would have set a bad Precedent that could lead to further government violations.

  • Posted By: jazzbebop @ 01/22/2008 11:43:13 PM

    anybody notice that the only person on stage last night during the dem debate that couldn't cross their legs at a break was Billary?

  • Posted By: kirt @ 01/22/2008 2:33:22 PM

    Was this a dabate or the Jerry Springer show? Can we grow up and stop the childes name calling? Hillary is not Hillbilly and Obama is not Osama, let put away the straw and spit balls.

    • Posted By: jazzbebop @ 01/22/2008 11:41:27 PM

      Thats right, lets stick with Billary... and Obama

  • Posted By: jazzbebop @ 01/22/2008 11:38:22 PM

    I actually hope Hillary gets the nomination as I think any Republican will be a better choice. If Obama gets the nom, it might actually be a contest.

  • Posted By: Sadie2 @ 01/22/2008 7:38:06 PM

    My heart tells me Obama, my head tells me Edwards, the powers that be in the Democratic Party tell me Clinton. I think they win out. If that's the case I will support and vote for her as if she had been my first choice. Those that vote Republican are voting for more of our young people to be killed in a war that makes no sense and to continue the loss of respect from the rest of the world. Please even if you hate Clintonif if it comes down to her or a Republican you must vote for her.

    • Posted By: Vinette @ 01/22/2008 11:19:41 PM

      We are not there yet. It is not about Hillary versus McCain. Vote the way your HEART and conscience dictates. Obama IS a contender. It might be Obama versus Mccain. Please don't give up too soon!

    • Posted By: lancemonotone @ 01/22/2008 8:47:01 PM

      I used to feel as you do. I've been an ardent Democrat all my adult life and even went door to door in Florida to campaign for Kerry, though he left me empty. From what I've heard, I think that both Romney and McCain realize the difficult situation that Iraq represents for us. I honestly do not believe that they will keep us there any longer than a Dem would. Now, of course, Guilliani is a different story but I don't think we'll have to worry about him much longer. I think our current standing in the world is a direct result of the crowd with which Bush surrounded himself. That crew has been almost entirely discredited. Even Wolfie couldn't keep his civvie job. The rest of the field, except for Huckabee, who is oddly liberal on some issues and oddly very scarily fanatically Right on many others, appears to be much more old-school conservative. Electing one of them would be a very welcome jump back to the left at this point. Remember, Clinton is a centrist, as are McCain and Romney.

  • Posted By: mariahaywood @ 01/22/2008 10:58:00 PM

    I know a lot of people who opt to not have insurance so they can get more pay. I don't think the government should be able to make you buy insurance if you don't want it.

  • Posted By: Vinette @ 01/22/2008 10:51:12 PM

    Well...that's one way to end a sensible on-line debate - clog it up with foolishness and hearsay about sexuality!

  • Posted By: mariahaywood @ 01/22/2008 10:45:12 PM

    http://factcheck.barackobama.com/

  • Posted By: Johnny1967 @ 01/22/2008 10:41:14 PM

    Is Hillary and Bill out of their minds!? I can understand that Hillary wants to put out some negative talking points regrading Obama. In fact, its probably good for Obama to get things out before the general election. However, Bill and Hillarys methods are just bewildering. Its as though they are tounting Obama to pull out negative stuff about Bill and Hillary. And most people know there are a lot of stuff on the Clintons.

    Do the Clintons really think that they are pure? Do they want the dirt on them to come pouring out during the primaries?

    Obama has the threat of unleashing the Clinton scandals. However, he should not dish it out. Keep the threat alive. Its a case where the THREAT IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ACTION. People know that the Clintons are not pure. People know about the Clinton scandals all too well. Let the people connect the dots. Let the people see the irony of the Clintons accusing Obama of being unethical or disengenious.

  • Posted By: mariahaywood @ 01/22/2008 10:41:03 PM

    Lets get the facts straight: http://factcheck.barackobama.com/

  • Posted By: mariahaywood @ 01/22/2008 10:29:23 PM

    This is a must see video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw

  • Posted By: mariahaywood @ 01/22/2008 10:25:36 PM

    Hillary Clinton says " what you do matters". This is a must see video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw

  • Posted By: Vinette @ 01/22/2008 10:23:39 PM

    John Frost. Who ARE YOU? Is this the best you can come up with in your fight against Barack Obama? First he's a terrorist under cover, now he's GAY?

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