A Clinton-Obama Slugfest

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  • Posted By: davis123 @ 01/25/2008 3:00:59 AM

    The fact that Bill Clinton can look a reporter in the eye and say "Shame on you" is utterly astounding. This is the same Bill Clinton who lied to Congress, has been dis-barred, and received sexual favors from young girls in the White House while on the job! The gall and shamelessness are truly amazing! The Clintons truly raise straight faced lying to an art form!

  • Posted By: sbeth7 @ 01/25/2008 2:03:48 AM

    I think Hillary Clinton is the most knowledgeable and experienced person to be president. She is the most likely to win come November and the most likely to be able to take on the job of being president from Day One! Obama does not seem up to the task of being president. Hillary has a more detailed plan and a better understanding of the complex issues that we face. I also do not like the way Obama has used the issue of race to stir up emotions and cause a division in the Democratic party. To say that Hillary said something racist is totally off the mark and very mean spirited! The Clintons have a history of standing up for civil rights. We should not allow issues of race or gender to divide us! We should also not vote someone because of their race or gender. I support Hillary because she is smart and experienced, not simply because she is a woman. That is true equality electing someone based on their merits! I hope that America can finally evolve to that point where we judge people based on their merits!
    VOTE Hillary!!!

  • Posted By: sbeth7 @ 01/25/2008 2:03:28 AM

    I think Hillary Clinton is the most knowledgeable and experienced person to be president. She is the most likely to win come November and the most likely to be able to take on the job of being president from Day One! Obama does not seem up to the task of being president. Hillary has a more detailed plan and a better understanding of the complex issues that we face. I also do not like the way Obama has used the issue of race to stir up emotions and cause a division in the Democratic party. To say that Hillary said something racist is totally off the mark and very mean spirited! The Clintons have a history of standing up for civil rights. We should not allow issues of race or gender to divide us! We should also not vote someone because of their race or gender. I support Hillary because she is smart and experienced, not simply because she is a woman. That is true equality electing someone based on their merits! I hope that America can finally evolve to that point where we judge people based on their merits!
    VOTE Hillary!!!

  • Posted By: KOJAK @ 01/24/2008 11:34:19 PM

    Unfortunately the "swift boat" people have already raised over 100 million to run ads over and over again about Obama's self-admitted drug use. It is very unfortunate, and in the context of his book the youthfull brush with drug use and the subsequent going on to make something worthwhile of his life are a powerful statement of ones ability to rise above a mistake, but the 30 second spots we will hear twenty times a day will be overwhelming.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 01/24/2008 9:17:10 PM

    Brave. The fact check series deserves kudos. I wish that Newsweek had instituted this before the War in Iraq. Recently, eartlink.net published an article on a study conducted by Center for Public Integrity.
    This organization ???counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or had links to al-Qaida or both.???

    A fact check in 2003 might have prevented the war. I hope Newsweek keeps this feature up.

  • Posted By: Change is a verb not a platform @ 01/24/2008 8:49:38 PM

    Obama is the whitest black man ever. That is why he is so confused about race issues. And that is why we do not really get a good picture of who he is as a man. All we see, is someone who points the finger at someone else, or quotes someone else, talks about what others have done....etc.
    He would get more support if he was comfortable in his own skin (ie. true to himself) and not trying to be a white president.

  • Posted By: Change is a verb not a platform @ 01/24/2008 8:49:11 PM

    Obama is the whitest black man ever. That is why he is so confused about race issues. And that is why we do not really get a good picture of who he is as a man. All we see, is someone who points the finger at someone else, or quotes someone else, talks about what others have done....etc.
    He would get more support if he was comfortable in his own skin (ie. true to himself) and not trying to be a white president.

  • Posted By: Change is a verb not a platform @ 01/24/2008 8:48:49 PM

    Obama is the whitest black man ever. That is why he is so confused about race issues. And that is why we do not really get a good picture of who he is as a man. All we see, is someone who points the finger at someone else, or quotes someone else, talks about what others have done....etc.
    He would get more support if he was comfortable in his own skin (ie. true to himself) and not trying to be a white president.

  • Posted By: celmasri41 @ 01/24/2008 6:59:46 PM

    I won't vote for Obama if he is the nominee as I do not trust or like him. He never says anything that gives specifics andif he doesn't like a question or statement that is directed at him, he lashes out and falls back on what the Clinton's did or did not do. He reminds me of G. W. Bush and we have had enough of him and his like to last a lifetime!

  • Posted By: Politico Journo @ 01/24/2008 4:34:49 PM

    To those who have received and believe racist/religious errors about Sen. Obama:
    TRUTH: Barack Obama is a committed and active Christian. He has been a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago for 20 years, where he continues to attend services with his family. Barack has never been a Muslim or practiced any other faith besides Christianity.
    LIE: ???He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.'???
    TRUTH: Sen. Obama did not say this nor was he ever a Muslim.
    LIE: ???Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.???
    TRUTH: Sen. Obama is a Centrist which is why he has the ability to work so well with bipartisan groups.
    LIE: ??? Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. He went to a XXXX Muslim school there.???
    TRUTH: Sen.Obama lived in Indonesia for a few years; he did not attend a Muslim school while there.
    LIE: ???Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.???
    TRUTH: Sen Obama joined the Trinity United Church of Christ when he got the call from God to do so over 20 years ago. He was then working in Chicago with Christian church groups. Trinity United Church of Christ is the largest congregation in the United Church of Christ. It is part of a liberal denomination that was the first to ordain an African American, a woman, and a gay man. Congregants have described it in the New York Times as a "warm and accepting community," and while it is a predominantly African American congregation, people of all backgrounds are enthusiastically welcomed.
    LIE: ???. . . keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.???
    TRUTH: In January 2005, Sen. Obama was sworn into the U.S. Senate on his family Bible.
    LIE: ???Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag.???
    TRUTH: Sen. Obama not only recites the Pledge of Allegiance, he often leads the Senate membership in doing so. He has always shown great respect for our American flag.
    LIE: ???While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag..??? .
    TRUTH: During the Star Spangled Banner, he stood at attention until it was completed. It is not required that anyone hold their hand to their heart. However, many Americans remain sitting while the Star Spangled Banner is playing, including at the July 4th concert in Washington, DC. Even while those of us who are veterans were asked to stand to reveal our service to our country.

    Let us all remain alert to those who would use race or religion to besmirch a candidate. A mother, a mature woman, a veteran, a journalist, and Great Generation Gal for Obama for President YES HE CAN

  • Posted By: MissyM @ 01/24/2008 4:18:03 PM

    When Obama first entered the race, I was excited and thought he was refreshing. The more I hear him in interviews and debates, the more I am beginning to tire of him and his rhetoric. There is something about him that I don't trust, and the more he talks, he comes across as wishywashy on the issues and untrustworthy. I'm returning to the Hillary camp.

  • Posted By: GeneNJ @ 01/23/2008 3:35:12 PM

    I've been watching the Democratic race now for many months now. And quite frankly it is the Clintons that have dragged the discourse into the mud. Iowa had the Clintons running scared. How dare some intelligent upstart take away Hillary's pre-ordained inevitable nomination for president.

    So she turned on the water works, played the fear card and had her husband distort the record of Obama. The Clintons are playing the same old games the same old politcs that doesn't let anything get done in this country. I think it will be just another 4 years of polarizing politcs if she and he are in the White House again.

    As a long time Clinton supporter. This has me turned off. We need to move on from the Bush Clinton Bush dynasties. I intend to fully support Obama and will vote for him in the primary.

    If Hillary becomes the nominee, I won't be voting for her. And will vote for McCain if he becomes the nominee.

    • Posted By: sassynanaAZ @ 01/24/2008 3:54:07 PM

      Guess what...if Obama is selected as the nominee I won't be voting for him but McCain if he is the lucky one. That hasn't been decided yet,either! Otherwise I will just do a write in.
      I have really been listening to Hillary lately and she makes sense to me. The rhetoric from Obama reminds me of a slick car salesman.

  • Posted By: Politico Journo @ 01/24/2008 3:24:55 PM

    Dear BVS 9940
    When you post statements about another person online, you owe it to readers to be truthful and know the facts. Here is the truth about your statements. I hope this will be helpful to those who may foolishly want to negate a candidate based on his religion OR race. Let' s all act as truth squads and not allow anyone touse this site for racial or religious prejudice.
    To quote you:
    Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.
    TRUTH. HE WAS NEVER A MUSLIM. HIS GRANDFATHER WAS A MUSLIM.. THE GRANDFATHER HE NEVER MET. HE LIVED IN INDONESIA, A MUSLIM COUNTRY. HE ATTENDED CATHOLIC AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS WHILE THERE.

    Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.
    TRUTH. HE IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CENTRIST ... A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD DEMOCRAT. THAT IS HOW AND WHY HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE., an ability that our country could use in these dangerous times.

    Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best.
    In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
    sEN. OBAMA SW HIS FATHER ONLY ONCE AFTER HIS FATHER LEFT HIS MOTHER WHEN THE SENATOR WAS TWO YEARS OLD. OBAMA SAW HIS FATHER ONE TIME AFTER THAT WHEN HE RETURNED TO AMERICA WHILE HE WAS ILL AND SOON TO DIE.

    ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. HE USED HIS FAMILY BIBLE IN HIS SWEARING CEREMONY.

    Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag.
    While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.
    SEN OBAMA NOT ONLY RECITES THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, HE ALSO LEADS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN THE SENATE AT TIMES. AS FOR USING THE KORAN, GET REAL. DO YOU THINK ANY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE WOULD PERMIT THAT? GOOD LORD, YOU ARE DESPERATE!
    LET US ALL INVESTIGATE TRUTH WHEN WE HEAR UGLY ACCUSATIONS THROWN AT A CANDIDATE WHO HAS EARNED HIS RIGHT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT. WE HAVE HAD AN ADMINISTRATION THAT GAVE PINNOCHIO COMPETITION; WE NEED TO BE THIRSY FOR TRUTH?

    As for Indonesian influence on Obama, bah humbug. One Great Generation gal for Obama. YES HE CAN.

  • Posted By: Guerilla Journalist Gal @ 01/24/2008 3:02:42 PM

    Dear Readers. I am a recently retired journalism whose beat has been government: city, county, regional and national. I worked and lived in DC for over 13 years and yes, interviewed quite a few highly placed political figures. That said, I will add that I will vote for Sen. Obama for many reasons. Some are political -- I honestly believe he will be the best president for my precious country at this juncture in our history. However, also feel he is the man with the most integrity running in the Democratic party, and I trust that he will keep as many of his promises as he can if given the Congressoinal support and our citizens' support.
    I am horrified at how transparent Mr. and Sen. Clinton are being in their same ole, same ole malevelent campaign against their fellow American. I find their actions cowardly and dishonest.
    But I do wonder at the press' coverage of them. There is an important fact or two missing from the reports about Sen. Clinton's involvment with WalMart. I am stunned that noone has mentioned that Walmart was presented with a class action suit placed by groups of his female employees -- for sex discrimination. That doesn't make Mrs. Clinton a poster child for women, IMHO. Also, WalMart has destroyed the economy of many a small town, putting most of the smaller stores out of business. And making it necessary for folks to work there or nowhere. And they pay very very low wages. In addition, WalMart is called the Sino company in the Wall Street Journal because they import more Chinese goods than any other company in America. That has helped to wipe out entire industries in our country. Check out textiles, for ihstance.
    Again, it is the evil Twin's lack of respect for me and all American citizens that I find most repulsive about the current 'two for one" game. All Americans have a right to expect to learn from debates about issues and to get help knowing which approach will be most productive to our country and the middle class and poor.
    The twins are just deflecting Sen. Obama's opportunity to explain his plans should he become president.
    Same ole, same ole. Let me share this with you; dirty politicians are experts at weasel words, at slippery tlak and at saying a lot without saying what one needs to know. Check out Obamafor President.org. for fact checking. Thanks for reading this. One of the Great Generation for Obama

  • Posted By: Guerilla Journalist Gal @ 01/24/2008 2:57:34 PM

    Dear Readers. I am a recently retired journalism whose beat has been government: city, county, regional and national. I worked and lived in DC for over 13 years and yes, interviewed quite a few highly placed political figures. That said, I will add that I will vote for Sen. Obama for many reasons. Some are political -- I honestly believe he will be the best president for my precious country at this juncture in our history. However, also feel he is the man with the most integrity running in the Democratic party, and I trust that he will keep as many of his promises as he can if given the Congressoinal support and our citizens' support.
    I am horrified at how transparent Mr. and Sen. Clinton are being in their same ole, same ole malevelent campaign against their fellow American. I find their actions cowardly and dishonest.
    But I do wonder at the press' coverage of them. There is an important fact or two missing from the reports about Sen. Clinton's involvment with WalMart. I am stunned that noone has mentioned that Walmart was presented with a class action suit placed by groups of his female employees -- for sex discrimination. That doesn't make Mrs. Clinton a poster child for women, IMHO. Also, WalMart has destroyed the economy of many a small town, putting most of the smaller stores out of business. And making it necessary for folks to work there or nowhere. And they pay very very low wages. In addition, WalMart is called the Sino company in the Wall Street Journal because they import more Chinese goods than any other company in America. That has helped to wipe out entire industries in our country. Check out textiles, for ihstance.
    Again, it is the evil Twin's lack of respect for me and all American citizens that I find most repulsive about the current 'two for one" game. All Americans have a right to expect to learn from debates about issues and to get help knowing which approach will be most productive to our country and the middle class and poor.
    The twins are just deflecting Sen. Obama's opportunity to explain his plans should he become president.
    Same ole, same ole. Let me share this with you; dirty politicians are experts at weasel words, at slippery tlak and at saying a lot without saying what one needs to know. Check out Obamafor President.org. for fact checking. Thanks for reading this. One of the Great Generation for Obama

  • Posted By: multiple @ 01/24/2008 2:51:17 PM

    Reply to:Posted By: "Martin Edwin "Mick" Andersen @ 01/23/2008 7:52:34 PM
    That kind of woman likes to provoke man and keep insisting. Later on complain she was raped.
    IT IS A LIE! What can a woman be doing in a hotel room by herself with a man?

    Rape is when some one gets you in the desert, on the forest in a dark street.
    Lets think for a moment if she was raped in a hotel room, then it means that the
    Ex-president force the locker door to come in to the room?
    Make a more CREATEIBLE story. In case that happened which I have DOUBTS of it, SHE WAS DYING TO RAPE HIM.
    SHE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO LOSE; IN THE CONTRARY SHE WILL SHOW SHE WAS VICTIM.
    THIS KIND OF WOMEN, ARE WAY LESS THAN A SNAKE.

  • Posted By: multiple @ 01/24/2008 2:48:38 PM

    DO NOT IGNORE ABOUT THOSE COMMENTS AND VIDEO Posted By: JohnFrost @ 01/23/2008 5:44:05 PM. ABOUT OBAMA ARE VERY SERIOUS: THIS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED. They are already few things coming out from his past, or present life?

  • Posted By: healthcareisaright @ 01/24/2008 2:00:55 PM

    out of all the spouses who would you least likely trust to spend time with your, wives and daughters. i would not trust bill to walk my dog much less spend time alone with any woman i cared for,,, if the obama's wanted real baiting to go on all michelle would need to do is invite bill for a talk. bill would drop the hillary camp so quick the only one that wouldn't be surprized is hillary. let someone run for office whose spouse isn't predisposed to sexual conquest.

  • Posted By: BIG MAC @ 01/24/2008 1:27:26 PM

    Will the candidates stop playing the "dozens" aand get about the campaign!!!

  • Posted By: multiple @ 01/24/2008 1:12:41 PM

    It is obvious dose that dedicate their time throwing trash back and forts, HAVE NO EDUCTION. THIS IS THE EDUCATION YOU HAVE IN YOUR FAMILY (home):
    Use your time to educate and respect others.

    RESPECT FOR Mr. And Ms. Clinton.
    If you have just little of intelligence will see that this is a Republican trick to win The White House again.
    Former President Bill Clinton was FRAMED, YES!
    It was convenient to fine his weakness and put a stone in his way to make him fail.

    RESPECT FOR SOME ONE THAT WORK SO HARD TO MAKE AMERICA BETER PLACE TO LIVE.
    Mrs. Clinton is the strongest candidate to compete with any Republican.
    I respect Obama, but he is not ready to stand for our country jet.
    In a few years maybe he will my vote.
    It does not have to do with Black or White; it has to be about experience. On the other hand woman should stand for woman. This is the only opportunity that we probably have for decades to make women strong on the political field.

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