Giuliani on Trump-Cohen Tape: 'The President's Not an Idiot,' He Said Not to Pay in Cash

President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani said he's "dealt with much worse" following the release of the audio tape of a conversation between Trump and his former personal attorney Michael Cohen.

Cohen's lawyer, Lanny Davis, shared the tape with CNN, which released it on Tuesday evening. In it Trump and Cohen discuss buying the rights to the story of former Playboy model Karen McDougal, who claimed she had an affair with Trump.

Aired on CNN's Cuomo Prime Time, Trump and Cohen talked about financing, with Trump asking Cohen, "What financing?" to which Cohen responded, "We'll have to pay." Trump replied: "Pay with cash?"

The recording became unclear and it was not certain whether Trump was suggesting a cash payment or that they should not pay in cash.

Reacting to the clip, Giuliani told Fox News's Laura Ingraham on Tuesday evening that "There's no indication of any crime being committed on this tape."

The former New York City mayor also suggested that the president had told Cohen not to make the payment in cash, explaining Trump would not be advocating paying someone in cash because that would make him "a complete idiot."

"There's no way the president is going to be talking about setting up a corporation and using cash unless you're a complete idiot and the president's not an idiot," Giuliani told Fox News. "I agree with you the tape is a little bit hard to hear. But I assure you that we listened to it numerous, numerous times. And the transcript makes it quite clear in the end that President Trump says 'don't pay with cash.'

"Look, we've been over the tape over the weekend about five times," he continued. "What I urge people to do is go online and listen to your broadcast. Play the tape. Play it three times. The third time you play it, it will become clear.

"I've got 4,000 hours of Mafia people on tape. I know how to listen to them, I know how to transcribe them. I've dealt with much worse tapes than this," Giuliani said.

Giuliani also slammed Cohen for recording conversations with the president, who was his client at the time, suggesting it was "outrageous" that a lawyer would tape someone he represented.