Kareem Abdul-Jabar Sets Sights on Underground Railroad as Topic for Next Documentary

NBA All-Star and activist Kareem Abdul-Jabbar told the Associated Press that he has his sights set on creating a documentary-style piece on the Underground Railroad ahead of the premiere of his latest project.

Abdul-Jabbar is an executive producer of Fight the Power: The Movements That Changed America, which tackles the labor movement of the 1880s, women's suffrage, and civil rights along with the LGBTQ+ and Black Lives Matter initiatives. The hour-long documentary will air on the History Channel on Saturday.

But Abdul-Jabbar said he is already thinking about his next project, which he hopes will get into the details of the Underground Railroad. He said he wants to explore the unsung heroes of the famous pathway to freedom for enslaved African Americans.

"Some of the people involved that you would never, ever be considered to be heroes of the Underground Railroad. For example, what do you know about Wild Bill Hickok? When he was a teenager, he and his father and uncle help[ed] escaping slaves get to Canada," he said in a Q&A with the AP.

For more reporting from the Associated Press, see below.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar speaks during the Celebrating America Primetime Special on January 20, 2021. The livestream event hosted by Tom Hanks featured remarks by president-elect Joe Biden and vice president-elect Kamala Harris and performances representing diverse American talent. Biden Inaugural Committe/Getty Images

Abdul-Jabbar is an NBA legend, but the man known for his trademark skyhook shot has also devoted his life advocating for equality and social justice.

Abdul-Jabbar will take another step in his activism walk as an executive producer and narrator of the documentary which premieres Saturday on the History Channel. The one-hour documentary explores the history of protests that shaped the course for justice in America.

Fight the Power also features footage from Abdul-Jabbar's personal experiences when he covered one of Martin Luther King Jr.'s news conferences at age 17 and attended the famous 1967 Cleveland Summit, where prominent Black athletes such as Bill Russell and Jim Brown discussed Muhammad Ali's refusal to serve in the Vietnam War.

Abdul-Jabbar said co-executive producer Deborah Morales was adamant about the documentary needing to include all groups impacted by "bigotry and discrimination." His pursuit toward social justice for marginalized people prompted the NBA to create an award bearing his name last month.

In a recent interview, Abdul-Jabbar spoke with the Associated Press about the importance of the project, his unforgettable conversation with King, and how Emmett Till and James Baldwin were catalysts to his social justice journey.

Remarks have been edited for clarity and brevity.

AP: Why does the documentary focus on several different movements?

ABDUL-JABBAR: For me, it is trying to show that what Black Americans must deal with has been experienced by other marginalized groups. All of us at one time or another have been targeted by the dominant group. So, we must understand that all of us are in the same boat and we have to stick up for the rights of every marginalized group, not just the ones that we're in that causes controversy, but to look at other issues."

AP: When did you first realize people of color were treated unfairly in this country?

ABDUL-JABBAR: It started when I was 8 years old. That's how old I was when Emmett Till was murdered. And I didn't understand it. I asked my parents to explain it. They didn't have the words. I was like "Where do I live? Why am I a target here?

AP: How did you find some clarity?

ABDUL-JABBAR: I was in the eighth grade. I was about 13 years old, and I read James Baldwin's The Fire Next Time. That explained it all to me. It gave me an idea of what I had to do and what Black Americans had to do in order to get out from underneath all of this oppression.

AP: You are a champion on the basketball court and voice of inclusivity. Did you envision this path for yourself, even after your Hall of Fame hoops career?

ABDUL-JABBAR: I never really saw myself as a leader in all of it. I was someone who spoke out. I had enough nerve (and was) crazy enough to speak out about things. If we don't talk about the issues, they don't get dealt with. So, somebody has to go out there and speak. You remember all the controversy behind LeBron (James) saying, "Shut up and dribble is a lot of B.S." You have to just get to that point where you can say that and have people understand what it means.

AP: Which personal experience highlighted in the doc stands out to you the most?

ABDUL-JABBAR: When I was 17 and I got to interview Dr. King. That was incredible. Just to exchange some words with him. But to understand what his message actually meant, I never really compared it side by side with what Malcolm X was talking about. When you do that, you find out actually that they had two different approaches to the same end: freedom, justice and equality for all Americans. Equality, that's what it should be about.

AP: What's your biggest takeaway from the documentary?

ABDUL-JABBAR: It's a series of steps forward, but there's also some backsliding and a lot of attempts to move everything backwards. We had to deal with what people were really talking about, making America great again. It wasn't about being great. It was about being ruled by a certain group of people. They thought that was great. But our country should be ruled by the American people. And all of us have a vote in. All of us have a voice. And we have to use our voices and our votes in a righteous way.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar poses in the press room at the NBA Awards in Santa Monica, Calif. on June 25, 2018. The NBA legend serves as an executive producer and narrator of the one-hour documentary “Fight the Power: The Movements That Changed America,” which airs June 19 on the History Channel. Richard Shotwell/Invision/AP, File