Laura Ingraham Guest Says Trans People Will 'Destroy' Gender Norms to Create 'New Species'—'Human and Part Machine'

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Talk show host Laura Ingraham speaks during CPAC 2019 February 28, 2019 in National Harbor, Maryland. A guest on Ingraham's podcast claimed trans people are "trying to use social engineering to create a new species." Alex Wong/Getty Images

A guest on The Laura Ingraham Podcast has claimed that transgender people are trying to use social engineering to create a new species, with the host speculating whether this species would be "part human, part animal."

Fox News host Ingraham was speaking to Dr. Paul Nathanson, a gender relations professor and author of books including Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture on the podcast episode entitled "Transhumanism and the assault on traditional gender and masculinity."

During the episode, Ingraham and Nathanson discussed the "attack on masculinity" and some of the apparent hoaxes behind it. "The hoax that somehow sexes are all the same or capable of being bed into one continuum, that masculinity itself is toxic, terrible and poisonous, all of those things, and in fact has to be discouraged in many ways," Ingraham said before introducing Nathanson.

Ingraham discussed the recently denied claims that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle hope to raise their child with a fluid approach to gender, as well singer Sam Smith saying he is non-binary.

Nathanson told Ingraham that trans and non-binary movements have sprung up because "feminists challenge the notion of gender" and this has evolved into the development of feminist ideology.

In response, Ingraham said: "Their goal ultimately is the destruction or elimination of the traditional family, though, is it not? That's what we really want to get at here. That's really what's going on.

"If masculinity is bad and men are inherently going to be patriarchal unless somehow we can train them, and beat this out of them—to be protectors and to be courageous, all these things that we impugn upon men—well if you get rid of all that, then the traditional family itself collapses and that's one last bastion of Western Biblically-centered morality that enveloping our, and has helped us prosper, frankly, for millennia and advance in millennia," Ingraham said, as transcribed by Media Matters.

Nathanson agreed with Ingraham, adding: "I think that the trans people have taken it one step further because by abandoning gender altogether, not simply re-writing it, they're basically trying to use social engineering to create a new species. Which is what, in fact, the transhumanists have been doing for the past half century. Using medical and other technologies to develop a new species.

"So the goal is really quite radical," he added. "We're not talking about people who want to simply do a bit of reform here and there, add a new category. They want, they must, in fact, destroy whatever is in order to replace it with what they think should be. We're talking about revolution, not reform."

Ingraham asks: "And the new species will be looking like what? Will be part human part animal? I mean, will be human mostly…"

Nathanson said, "I think human and part machine," to which Ingraham replies "part machine, hmm."

In 2013, a talk at the University of Toronto by Nathanson and Dr. Katherine Young titled, "From Misogyny to Misandry to Intersexual Dialogue," was met with protests both inside and outside the lecture theater.