Trump, Clinton Among Famous Flyers, No Sex Acts Seen on Jeffrey Epstein's Jet, Pilot Says

Jeffrey Epstein's former pilot testified Tuesday in the sex trafficking trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, saying that he never saw any evidence of sexual activity when he was flying Epstein's plane.

The Associated Press reported that Lawrence Paul Visoski Jr. was Epstein's pilot for nearly 30 years, having piloted around 1,000 flights between 1991 and 2019. He said he flew famous people such as Prince Andrew and former U.S. presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.

Maxwell has been accused of recruiting and grooming girls that Epstein was accused of sexually abusing for at least 10 years, starting in 2004. Visoski said in the hierarchy of Epstein's world, Maxwell "was the Number 2" while Epstein "was the big Number 1."

Some media members have called Epstein's plane "The Lolita Express" after allegations surfaced that he had used it to fly teenage girls to his various properties.

Though Visoski said he stayed in the cockpit for the majority of the flights, he said Epstein never warned him to stay there and even encouraged him to use the bathroom in the back, which would require him to walk the length of the plane.

When Maxwell's attorney Christian Everdell asked Visoski if he had ever seen sexual activity or sex toys on the plane, he said "Never." He also said he had "absolutely not" seen any sexual activity with underage girls on the plane, adding he had also never seen children on the plane who were not with their parents.

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Jeffrey Epstein's longtime pilot Lawrence Paul Visoski Jr. told a jury that he never saw sex acts with underage girls on any flight he piloted. Above, in this courtroom sketch, Visoski testifies on the witness stand during Ghislaine Maxwell's sex trafficking trial, Monday, November 29, in New York. Elizabeth Williams/AP Photo

When Everdell asked him about a teenager who prosecutors say was sexually abused by Epstein before she became an adult, Visoski said he believed she was "mature" when he was introduced to her.

He also acknowledged that Clinton was a passenger on a few flights in the 2000s and he had piloted planes with Britain's Prince Andrew, the late U.S. Sen. John Glenn of Ohio — the first American to orbit Earth — and former presidents Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, "more than once."

Visoski said Epstein gave him 40 acres of land to build a house on the financier's New Mexico property and paid for his daughters' college education.

Flight records, made public as part of civil litigation, also showed that Epstein had used the plane to fly celebrities, influential academics and politicians around the globe.

Luminaries who flew with Epstein have had to beat back speculation that their presence on the flights meant they must have been aware of the millionaire's crimes. Clinton, like others who took rides from Epstein, has said he was unaware of any misconduct.

Maxwell, 59, traveled for decades in circles that put her in contact with accomplished and wealthy people before her July 2020 arrest.

The testimony supports what Assistant U.S. Attorney Lara Pomerantz told jurors in her opening statement Monday when she said Epstein and Maxwell were "partners in crime."

Maxwell has pleaded not guilty and one of her lawyers said in an opening statement Monday that she's being made a scapegoat for Epstein, who killed himself in his Manhattan jail cell at age 66 in August 2019 as he awaited a sex trafficking trial.

Visoski testified briefly on Monday before beginning Tuesday on the witness stand.

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Ghislaine Maxwell has pleaded not guilty to claims she groomed underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein. Above, people gather to protest human trafficking at the Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse where Maxwell's trial is being held on Monday, November 29, in New York City. Photo by David Dee Delgado/Getty Images