Jan. 6 Hearings Making Hardcore Trump Supporters 'Mushy': John Kasich

Former Ohio Gov. John Kasich has said the televised January 6 hearings are making some "hardcore" supporters of Donald Trump turn "mushy."

Kasich, a Republican who ran against Trump for the party's nomination in 2016 and endorsed Democratic President Joe Biden in 2020, made the comments on CNN's The Situation Room on Friday during a discussion about former White House counsel Pat Cipollone's appearance before the January 6 committee that day.

Cipollone testified before the committee behind closed doors after the panel subpoenaed him following explosive testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, a former top aide to former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows.

That testimony was recorded on video, so "presumably, major portions of it could be made public during upcoming hearings including as early as next week," host Wolf Blitzer noted. "What kind of impact would that have?" he asked Kasich.

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Former Ohio Governor John Kasich says the January 6 hearings are making hardcore Trump supporters "mushy." Pictured, Kasich visits "Your World With Neil Cavuto" at Fox News Channel Studios on October 15, 2019 in New York City. John Lamparski/Getty Images

Kasich replied that it was interesting that the committee's hearings were initially set to end in June, but dates are now being scheduled as late as August.

"Which means that little by little, they're finding more and more information and calling more and more relevant witnesses," he said.

"So, Cipollone is important in terms of the things that our guests have said here about confirming some things.

"But it also is really interesting how they keep finding more and more and more and more people who they want to call and have testify."

Kasich went on to say that he believes "a group of what were hardcore Trump supporters" are "getting like mushy."

Elaborating on that thought, Kasich continued: "They're mushy, they're getting weaker, they no longer sort of stand up and defend him.

"They now say, well, it's time to move on. So, these hearings, the accumulation of these hearings, the highly watched hearings, are taking a real toll on him and providing space for other Republicans to think about running for president."

In a hearing in late June, Hutchinson described Cipollone's efforts to stop Trump from joining the mob at the Capitol on January 6, 2021.

She testified that Cipollone warned her that Trump would be charged with "every crime imaginable" if he went to the Capitol in a bid to stop the certification of Biden's election win.

Trump's niece Mary Trump has said that she believes the former president is "terrified" at the thought of what Cipollone could have told the committee.

"I think this might be the first time in his entire life that even he can't deny that the walls may indeed be closing in," she said during an appearance on MSNBC.

"The amount of evidence that we've seen coming out of these committee hearings is overwhelming, but even more troubling for him is the witnesses are now coming forward are increasingly important in terms of access and in terms of their positions in his administration and they're unimpeachable."

Newsweek has contacted Trump's spokesperson for comment. Kasich has also been contacted for further comment.