Jan. 6 Hearing Updates: Department of Justice Will be Focus of Thursday's Hearing

Live Updates
  • The House Select Committee investigating the events leading up to the January 6 Capitol riot is held its fourth hearing Tuesday.
  • This hearing focused on how former President Donald Trump and his inner circle pressured state officials to overturn the 2020 Presidential election results.
  • Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and Georgia Secretary of State's Chief Operating Officer Gabriel Sterling testified. Trump and his legal team asked the officials to decertify state electors for Joe Biden and investigate unsupported claims of fraud.
  • All three witnesses dismissed Trump's allegations of election fraud and swore they would uphold their oaths to the Constitution.
  • Georgia election worker Wandrea ArShaye "Shaye" Moss testified that she and her mother, Ruby Freeman, faced threats and harassment after Rudy Giuliani falsely accused them of brining in fake ballots.
  • A documentary filmmaker turned over footage of interviews with the Trump family to the House Committee.
  • The next hearing will take place on Thursday, June 23 and will focus on Trump's attempt to "corrupt" the Justice Department.
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(L-R) Rusty Bowers, Arizona House Speaker; Brad Raffensperger, Georgia Secretary of State; and Gabriel Sterling, Georgia Secretary of State Chief Operating Officer, appear for testimony during the fourth hearing on the January 6th investigation in the Cannon House Office Building on June 21, 2022 in Washington, DC. Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images

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Senator Johnson Denies Offering Fake Electors to Pence

Republican Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin has responded to Tuesday's Jan. 6 hearing after he was mentioned during the testimony.

During a video put together by the House Select Committee, text messages were revealed tying Johnson to a plot to send a fake slate of electors to former Vice President Mike Pence minutes before the joint session of Congress on Jan. 6, 2021.

Sean Riley, Johnson's chief of staff and former aide to Donald Trump, texted Pence's Director of Legislative Affairs Chris Hodgson that "Johnson needs to hand something to VPOTUS please advise."

Hodgson responded, "What is it?"

"Alternative slate of electors for MI and WI because archivist didn't receive them," Riley replied.

Hodgson then said, "Do not give that to him."

A spokesperson of Johnson's said the senators "had no involvement in the creation of an alternate slate of electors."

"The senator had no involvement in the creation of an alternate slate of electors and had no foreknowledge that it was going to be delivered to our office," Alexa Henning said in a tweet. "This was a staff to staff exchange. His new Chief of Staff contacted the Vice President's office."

She added that the Vice President's office said not to give it to him and we did not.

"There was no further action taken," Henning said. "End of story."

Democratic candidates hoping to unseat Johnson in the primaries called on the senator to resign.

"Ron Johnson should resign, but we know he won't," Wisconsin State Treasurer Sarah Godlewski said in a tweet. "The only way to stop him is by defeating him this November—and I'm the one who will get it done."

Progressive Tom Nelson called Johnson a "criminal and a traitor" and said the senator should be subpoenaed by Congress.

Johnson himself has dismissed the ongoing Jan. 6 hearings, saying they are a tactic by the Democrats to district from the "disastrous result of their policies."

"It's obvious that the Democrats set this thing up to be a political exercise, obviously designed to distract the public from the major problems occurring because of their agenda, their ideology," he told the Daily Wire Tuesday. "They can't talk about the disastrous result of their policies, so this is really the only thing they can talk about."

Department of Justice Will be Focus of Thursday's Hearing

In his closing statement, Representative Adam Schiff said taking the Presidential oath of office is an "awesome power to acquire."

"When Donald Trump used the power of the presidency to try to stay in office after he lost to Joe Biden, he broke that sacred covenant," he said during Tuesday's hearing.

He called Trump's attempt to cling to power was "unconstitutional, unpatriotic" and "fundamentally un-American."

Whether his actions were criminal, "will ultimately be for others to decide," Schiff said.

He added that Americans cannot take for granted that we live in the world's greatest democracy.

Representative Liz Cheney, the Committee Vice Chair, said today's hearing proved America is a "nation of laws."

She said that the testimony from these witnesses showed that "our institutions don't defend themselves, people do."

While these witnesses continued to honor their oath to the Constitution by testifying today, there were more than 30 witnesses who have invoked their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

This includes Trump adviser Rodger Stone, General Michael Flynn and Trump's lawyer John Eastman. She said Steve Bannon and Trump's campaign adviser Peter Navarro refused to comply with Congressional subpoenas.

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows is "hiding behind Trump's claim of executive privilege," she added.

Cheney called on former White House counsel Pat Cipollone to testify before the Committee.

"Our committee is certain that Donald Trump does not want Pat Cipollone to testify," she said. "The American people deserve to hear from Mr. Cipollone personally. He should appear before this committee, and we are working to secure his testimony."

Committee Chair Bennie Thompson said that election workers are the "backbone" of American democracy.

He said they were the "roadblocks" for Trump in his attempt to "cling to power."

What's Next:

Thompson said the next hearing scheduled for Thursday will focus on Trump's attempt to "corrupt the Department of Justice" in his plan to overturn the election.

"We will hear on Thursday that Donald Trump was also the driving force behind and effort to corrupt the Justice Department," he said.

Witnesses will include former acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue, whose testimony has been played in previous hearings.

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US Representative Adam Schiff (L), (D-CA), US Representative and Committee Chairman, Bennie Thompson (C) and US Republican Representative and Vice Chairwoman Liz Cheney (R) attend the fourth hearing by the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the US Capitol in the Cannon House Office Building in Washington, DC, on June 21, 2022. MANDEL NGAN/AFP via Getty Images

Giuliani Video Turned Election Worker's Life 'Upside Down'

Former Georgia election worker Wandrea ArShaye "Shaye" Moss said her life was "turned upside down" after Rudy Giuliani released a short video that showed her counting ballots on the night of the 2020 Presidential election.

Moss was seen with her mother, Ruby Freeman, in the video released by Giuliani, who was at the time an attorney for former President Donald Trump.

Rep. Adam Schiff said Trump, Giuliani and others used the video to say "that you and your mother were somehow involved in a plot to kick out observers, bring suitcases of false ballots for Biden into the arena, and then run them through the machines multiple times." None of those allegations were true, Schiff added.

One week after Giuliani shared the video clip, he made additional "deeply disturbing" and untrue comments about Moss and Freeman during a hearing before Georgia state legislators, Schiff said.

Moss recalled learning about threats linked to the video while at work. She then discovered what she described as racist and hateful messages sent to her on Facebook.

Moss said she felt "awful" that her work put her family at risk and detailed some of the ways in which she said the experience had changed her life. Though Moss said she enjoyed being an election worker before the 2020 election, she decided to leave her job after everything she and her family had experienced. She also described avoiding going out in public, even to the grocery store.

"It turned my life upside down," Moss said. "I no longer give out my business card. I don't transfer calls. I don't want anyone knowing my name. I don't want to go anywhere with my mom, because she might yell my name out over the grocery aisle, or something. I don't go to the grocery store at all. I haven't been anywhere at all."

The experience has affected her life "in a major way, in every way," Moss said.

"All because of lies," she added.

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Wandrea ArShaye “Shaye” Moss, a former Georgia election worker, is sworn in prior to testifying during the fourth hearing on the January 6th investigation in the Cannon House Office Building on June 21, 2022 in Washington, D.C. Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images

Raffensperger Dismisses Trump's Fraud Allegations

Donald Trump claimed that he won hundreds of thousands of more votes in Georgia than was reported. Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said this was not true.

During his testimony Tuesday, Raffensperger said that Trump was probably suspicious of the vote in Georgia because 28,000 people skipped the Presidential election but voted down the ballot for state and local officials.

Raffensperger also debunked several other claims Trump made about fraud in the Georgia election. He said Trump's allegation that "close to 5,000" dead people voted were "not accurate."

A state investigation found only four dead people cast a ballot. He also said there were no underaged or unregistered voters who cast ballots. Trump said there were 66,000.

Raffensperger said the state ran nearly 300 investigations that checked every allegation Trump and his team made. The state "ran down the rabbit trail of allegation" to "make sure the count was accurate," Raffensperger said.

"The numbers are the numbers," he said. "The numbers don't lie.

Gabriel Sterling, the Georgia Secretary of State Chief Operating Officer, said that recounts showed the margin of error rate in Fulton County was 0.009 percent.

In three counts of the ballots cast in Georgia, Raffensperger said the count was "remarkable close" and showed that President Trump did come up short.

When Trump asked Raffensperger to find 11,780 votes in his favor, Raffensperger said "there were no votes to be found."

Raffensperger added that despite the threat to him and his family, he didn't "walk away" from his duties.

"Sometimes moments require you to stand up," he said. "We just followed the law and we followed the Constitution.

Brad Raffensperger, Georgia Secretary of State, testifies as Gabe Sterling, Georgia Deputy Secretary of State, listens, as the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol continues to reveal its findings of a year-long investigation, at the Capitol in Washington, Tuesday, June 21, 2022 /Jacquelyn Martin/AP Photo

Sterling Debunks 'Suitcases of Ballots' Theory

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and Georgia Secretary of State Chief Operating Officer Gabriel Sterling both dismissed Donald Trump's claims that suitcases of Biden ballots were brought into a counting room in Fulton County, Georgia.

Sterling said the footage from the counting room showed country workers engaging in "normal ballot processing."

He said those trunks that were pulled from under the tables were the standard ballot containers.

This theory was also debunked in a previous Jan. 6 hearing. Former U.S. Attorney B. Jay Pak said there was no evidence of fraud in the suitcase incident. Former Attorney General Bill Barr also testified that the Fulton County allegations "had no merit."

Senior White House officials also testified that they told Trump at the time that these allegations of fraud in Georgia has no basis. Trump, however, kept pushing this lie to his supporters and pressured state election officials.

Video Shows QAnon Shaman at Arizona Protest

Some of the people who were at the U.S. Capitol Building on the day of the January 6 riot also attended earlier protests at state capitols, according to Rep. Adam Schiff.

"The select committee has uncovered evidence in the course of our investigation that at Stop the Steal protests at state capitols across the country, there were individuals with ties to the groups or parties involved in the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol," Schiff said.

One of these individuals was Jacob Chansley, who is also known as the QAnon Shaman.

The committee played a video clip recorded inside Arizona's House of Representatives building that Schiff said had been previously undisclosed. In the video, protesters can be seen "illegally entering and refusing to leave" the government building, Schiff said.

Among the protesters is Chansley, who can be seen wearing an outfit that looks identical to what he later wore at the U.S. Capitol on January 6.

Other protesters at this particular "Stop the Steal" event included members of the Proud Boys and men who were armed with rifles, Schiff said.

Bowers Refused to Decertify State Electors for Biden

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers said a Republican Representative asked him to block the certification of his state's electors.

Arizona Representative Andy Biggs asked for Bowers' support in the decertification of the state electors for Joe Biden.

"He asked if I would sign on both to a letter that had been sent from my state and/or that I would support the decertification of the electors," Bowers said.

"I said I would not," he added.

Trump Asked Bowers to Replace Biden Electors

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers said former President Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani asked him to replace state electors for Joe Biden with electors for Trump.

Bowers testified to a phone call with Trump and Giuliani. During the call, Giuliani said there was evidence that hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants and dead voters cast ballots in the 2020 Presidential election.

Despite his request for this information, Bowers said Giuliani never turned over that alleged evidence.

Bowers said Giuliani and Trump wanted him to allow a committee in the Arizona legislature to hear evidence of voter fraud and take action. Bowers said he refused.

"I did not feel the evidence merited a hearing," he said. "I did not want to be used as a pawn."

Trump's plan, he told Bowers, was to hold a hearing based on a theory that Arizona can remove electors for Joe Biden and replace them with electors for Trump.

Bowers said he had never heard of such a legal authority or precedent.

"You are asking me to do something that is counter to my oath when I swore to the Constitution to uphold it," he said. "This is totally foreign as and idea or theory to me and I would never do anything of such magnitude without deep consultation with attorneys."

"You're asking me to do something against my oath, and I will not break my oath."

Trump and Giuliani brought up several times that they are all Republicans and that Bowers should be more "receptive" to this theory and "be more open" to their suggestions," Bowers said.

Bowers still refused to go along with their plan due to the lack of strong evidence.

When Bowers asked Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, another member of Trump's legal team, to give him that alleged evidence of voter fraud, they could not provide it.

According to Bowers, Giuliani said "we've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence." Bowers thought this was just a "gaffe" at the time. He said "nobody" provided him with any evidence of election fraud.

"To do something because someone asked me to is foreign to my very being," he said. "I will not do it."

Trump's lawyer John Eastman also asked Bowers to vote to decertify the Biden electors based on alleged "plenary authority." Eastman said Bowers should "just do it" and "have the courts sort it out." Bowers repeated that this action would be counter to his oath.

"We have no legal pathway, both in state law, nor, to my knowledge, in federal law, for us to execute such a request, and I am not allowed to walk or act beyond my authority," he said.

Bowers also said Trump's statement earlier today was wrong.

"I did have a conversation with the President," Bowers said, referring to Trump's recount of their conversation after the 2020 election. "That is certainly not it. There are parts that are true, there are parts that are not."

He said he never told Trump the election was rigged or that Trump won Arizona, as the former president claims.

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Rusty Bowers, Arizona House Speaker, testifies during the fourth hearing on the January 6th investigation in the Cannon House Office Building on June 21, 2022 in Washington, DC. Kevin Dietsch//Getty Images

Trump Campaign Targeted 'Every Tier' of Election Workers, Schiff Says

Former President Donald Trump's "pressure campaign" to overturn the 2020 Presidential election "targeted every tier" of elected officials, according to Rep. Adam Schiff.

In his opening statement before the House Jan. 6 Committee on Tuesday, Schiff outlined many of the ways in which he said Trump and his advisers applied pressure to election officials and election workers.

The former President tried changing the outcome of the election by attempting to stop the vote count on Election Day, Schiff said. Trump then tried to convince state legislators to refuse to certify the election results and went to court to contest results in several states.

Trump "mounted a pressure campaign directed at individual state legislators" when those initial attempts to change the election outcome did not work, Schiff said.

"But the state legislatures wouldn't go along with this scheme, and neither would the Vice President," Schiff said. "None of the legislatures agreed to go back into special session and declare him the winner. No legitimate state authority in the states Donald Trump lost would agree to appoint fake Trump electors and send them to Congress."

Even so, "this didn't stop the Trump campaign either," Schiff continued.

He recalled that Federal District Judge David Carter previously said Trump "likely violated multiple federal laws by engaging in this scheme" and said those listening to Tuesday's public hearing would hear evidence of Trump's "direct involvement in key elements of this plot," as well as the involvement of his advisers.

"As the judge explained, President Trump's pressure campaign to stop the electoral count did not end with Vice President Pence," Schiff said. "It targeted every tier of federal and state elected officials."

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Rep. Adam Schiff, D-CA, speaks during a House Select Committee hearing to investigate the Jan 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol, in the Cannon House Building on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., on June 21, 2022. ROBERTO SCHMIDT/AFP via Getty Images

Trump Criticizes 'RINO' Rusty Bowers

Former President Donald Trump criticized Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers and referred to him as a RINO, or Republican in name only, in a statement released shortly before the House Jan. 6 Committee's fourth day of hearings.

Bowers is one of four witnesses appearing before the committee on Tuesday. The committee is expected to focus on the pressure Trump placed on state and local election officials as part of an attempt to overturn the election results.

Bowers "is the latest RINO to play along" with the committee, Trump's statement began.

The former President said he played a large role in helping Bowers win his 2020 re-election campaign, which he said Bowers had "expected to lose" prior to Trump's involvement.

"During the conversation, he told me that the election was rigged and that I won Arizona," Trump said. "He said he got more votes than I did which could never have happened. In fact, he said without me, he would have been out of office, and he expected to be prior to my coming along, and big Arizona rallies."

Trump's statement went on to recall an exchange he had with Bowers shortly before the 2020 election.

"The night before the election he walked outside with his wife and saw the tremendous Trump enthusiasm and told her, 'You know what? Maybe I will win after all'—and he did," Trump said.

"Bowers should hope there's not a tape of the conversation," Trump's statement concluded.

Filmmaker Turns Over Footage of Trump Family Interviews

British filmmaker Alex Holder turned over video footage related to January 6 to Congress.

Holder said he complied with the subpoena from the House Committee on January 6 and gave footage from the documentary series he was filming about the final weeks of Trump's re-election campaign.

In this series, Holder said he had exclusive interviews with former President Donald Trump, his children Ivanka, Eric and Don Jr, son-in-law Jared Kushner and Vice President Mike Pence.

"When we began this project in September 2020, we could have never predicted that our work would one day be subpoenaed by Congress," Holder said in a statement Tuesday.

He said he has "no agenda" in this matter.

"We simply wanted to better understand who the Trumps were and what motivated them to hold onto power so desperately," he said.

Holder added that he and his team "dutifully" handed over all the materials the Committee asked for and are "fully cooperating."

WATCH: Fourth Hearing Underway

The fourth hearing on the events leading up to the January 6 Capitol riot will begin soon.

Democratic Representative Adam Schiff of California will lead the hearing focused on Donald Trump's attempt to pressure state election officials into overturning election results.

There will be two panels with a total of four witnesses testifying before the Committee Tuesday.

The hearing will stream live at 1 p.m. ET on the Committee website and YouTube channel. All major broadcast and cable networks, as well as CSPAN, will air the hearing as well.

Trump Posts About 'Perfect' Raffensperger Call

The early 2021 phone call former President Donald Trump had with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger about the 2020 Presidential election was "perfect," Trump said in a Tuesday morning post on Truth Social.

Trump's post came hours before Raffensperger was expected to testify before the committee Tuesday. The call took place a few days before the January 6 Capitol riot.

"A 'PERFECT' PHONE CALL to discuss a Rigged and Stolen Election, and what to do about it, with many people, including lawyers and others, knowingly on the line," Trump posted.

The post followed another in which Trump questioned why the committee is not "going after the people who illegally SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN" or on the people "who are IN CHARGE OF SECURITY" at the Capitol.

Trump was heard asking Raffensperger to "find" votes cast for him by Georgia voters in a leaked recording of the phone call in question. Trump has denied any wrongdoing in connection with the call. Raffensperger is expected to be asked about the call during his appearance before the committee.

Day 4 to Focus on Trump's Pressure Campaign

The House Jan. 6 Committee's fourth day of public hearings will focus on the pressure former President Donald Trump placed on state and local election officials, a committee aide told the Associated Press.

The committee's witness list for Tuesday includes three election officials and one election worker from Georgia and Arizona. Trump and his campaign disputed the election results in both battleground states after they were called for President Joe Biden.

The aide told the AP the committee intends to show that Trump was aware placing pressure on election officials could result in threats of violence aimed at those officials and members of their families. The committee will also show that, despite being aware of this potential for violence, Trump pressured the officials anyway, resulting in an elevated threat level that remains nearly two years later.

Rep. Adam Schiff of California said the committee will also show connections between Trump and a plan to place "alternative" electors in states his campaign disputed as part of an effort to overturn the election.

Trump 'Endangered' State Officials, Schiff Says

Trump knew the allegations of voter fraud that he was spreading in regards to the 2020 presidential election were "false," Schiff said in a Tuesday morning tweet previewing the House Jan. 6 Committee's fourth day of hearings.

Even so, Trump "used these lies to pressure state and local officials to overturn" the 2020 election, Schiff wrote.

By doing so, the former President "endangered" the lives of those election officials and their families, Schiff added.

After showing what Trump did in the wake of the election, the committee's fourth day of hearings will also show "how courageous public servants protected our democracy," Schiff's tweet concluded.

Trump “endangered” state officials, Schiff says
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) listens during the third hearing by the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol in the Cannon House Office Building on June 16, 2022 in Washington, D.C. Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images

Raffensperger Refused to 'Find' Votes for Trump

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger is expected to testify on a call between him and former President Donald Trump.

Following the 2020 Presidential election, Trump called Raffensperger asking him to "find" the 11,780 votes needed to flip the state from Joe Biden to Trump.

"I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state," Trump said, according to a transcript of the call.

"Fellas, I need 11,000 votes," Trump added. "Give me a break."

Biden narrowly won Georgia, with around 49.5 percent of the vote. Trump had about 49.3 percent of the vote in Georgia.

Raffensperger, who voted for and donated to Trump's campaign, refused to submit to the then-President's pressure.

Rick Wilson, a former Republican political strategist, said Raffensperger's testimony will "trigger" Trump.

"This is going to trigger Trump like nothing else," Wilson tweeted.

Wilson, who now identifies as an Independent, has been a vocal critic of the former President and is the author of "Everything Trump Touches Dies."

Four Witnesses Set to Testify Tuesday

Four witnesses are set to testify at Tuesday's hearing on the events leading up to the January 6 Capitol riot.

These state election officials will speak on former President Donald Trump's attempts to overturning votes for Joe Biden in the 2020 Presidential election.

Brad Raffensperger

The Georgia Secretary of State was a key figure in Trump election fraud plot.

Trump called Raffensperger to "fund" 11,780 votes in order to change the outcome in his favor.

"All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state," Trump said, according to a transcript of the call.

"So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break."

Gabriel Sterling

As the Georgia Secretary of State's Chief Operating Officer, Sterling is the voting implementation manager.

During a press conference in December 2020, Sterling detailed incidents of violence, death threats and harassment against Georgia election officials. Sterling blamed Trump and other Republican leaders for this.

"Mr. President, you have not condemned these actions or this language," Sterling said. "Senators, you've not condemned this language or these actions. This has to stop."

"Stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence. Someone's gonna get hurt. Someone's gonna get shot. Someone's gonna get killed."

Both Sterling and Raffensperger testified in front of a special grand jury as part of the criminal investigation in Georgia into whether Trump committed solicitation of election fraud with the phone call attempting to "find" the necessary amount of votes so he could win the state.

Gabriel Sterling
Gabriel Sterling, Georgia's Voting System Implementation manager, speaks during a press conference addressing Georgia's alleged voter irregularities at the Georgia State Capitol on January 04, 2021 in Atlanta, Georgia. Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images

Wandrea ArShaye "Shaye" Moss

Moss is a former Georgia election worker who received death threats after Trump and his lawyer Rudy Giuliani spread misinformation about voter fraud after the election.

As a voter registration officer in Fulton County, Georgia, Moss was falsely accused of conspiring to produce secret batches of illegal ballots and running them through voting machines in order to help Biden win the state.

Rusty Bowers

The Republican Arizona House Speaker spoke out against Trump's attempt to overturn the election results.

Bowers is expected to testify on how Trump and his legal team called him to discuss a plan to appoint their own electoral officials who could falsely declare Trump beat Biden.

"As a conservative Republican, I don't like the results of the presidential election," Bowers said.

"I voted for President Trump and worked hard to reelect him. But I cannot and will not entertain a suggestion that we violate current law to change the outcome of a certified election."